Define Kayak

seated position with legs extended out front using a double bladed paddle or leg driven propulsion system (Mirage drive or others).  Multiple occupant versions include inline seating, not side by side seating.

seated position with legs extended out front using a double bladed paddle or leg driven propulsion system (Mirage drive or others).  Multiple occupant versions include inline seating, not side by side seating.

would this include SUP's? 

seated position with legs extended out front using a double bladed paddle or leg driven propulsion system (Mirage drive or others).  Multiple occupant versions include inline seating, not side by side seating.

Of course there is also the width restrictions.  The NuCanoe at 42" is about the widest "kayak" I can find.  I don't think you'd sit side by side on a 42" wide watercraft.

-Allen

seated position with legs extended out front using a double bladed paddle or leg driven propulsion system (Mirage drive or others).  Multiple occupant versions include inline seating, not side by side seating.

would this include SUP's?

I don't think so, unless you were paddling one of the SUP/Kayak hybrids in "kayak fashion".

-Allen

I ran across this while doing some searches:

There are two types of kayaks: open top (sometimes called sit-on-top) or enclosed hull boats. In either type, the paddler sits with their legs stretched in front of them and paddles using a double blade paddle (they don't have to flip it around to paddle on both sides). Kayaks come with either a well defined keel, or none at all. If a kayak has a keel, it is used for flat water, to go straight with little effort. If a kayak has no keel it is used for quickly moving water where it is important to be able to turn quickly.

A canoe also has two types: a flat water boat, or a white water boat. The main difference is in the keel of these boats. Flat water boats have a very distinguished keel on the bottom to help them track straight in the water, white water boats have none. Another distinguishing feature of these two types of boats is the shape of the bottom. Flat water boats have flat bottoms and white water boats have curved, this also helps in turning. An easy way to tell if you're looking at a flat water or white water boat without flipping it over is to look at the center of the inside of the boat, if there looks like a dotted line running from each pointy end, then it's a flat water boat, that line is where the keel is. Canoes of either type are generally paddled with a single blade paddle.

Here's a few things that CAN but are not necessarily similar between the two types of boats:

- both can be paddled single or tandem (2 people)
- both can be used on flat water (lakes) or white water (rivers with rapids)
- in most states (not all), neither type of boat has to be registered
- both are generally not motorized (although some canoes have flat backs so a small motor could be attached)
- both can be made of advanced forms of plastic to be sturdy and lightweight

Here's a few differences:

- open top kayaks (those without spray skirts or enclosed hulls) are generally used in the ocean
- some kayaks can have attached rudders, that are used to turn the boat while paddling that are controlled through foot pedals (canoes don't have this feature)
- canoes can carry more than 2 people in some circumstances, there is a mathematical formula to figure out how many people can board a canoe, a general rule of thumb is that a 15 ft boat can carry 3 people maximum (kayaks will carry 2 max if they are a tandem boat)
- kayaks sit lower in the water, but have less 'drag' (boat touching the water) and are therefore paddled with less effort
- you will most likely not find a metal kayak
- aluminum flat water canoes are common (and sturdy!)
- kayaks usually appear to be smaller


This doesn't hit on everything but brings up a few good distinctions.



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would this include SUP's? 

Do we have anyone that participates in AOTY with a SUP?

What are these?

-Allen

Imperial Tie Fighter class catayaks

Haha!!!


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Andy Jade might, but other than that, not that I am aware of at this time. I could see it coming up in the future and having an solid answer ironed out now would save future hassle.   You guys have the stick, might as well draw a line in the sand..

Does it matter if a guy fishes from a canoe that he moves through the water like a kayak?

If it is only propelled by the manual efforts of the angler does it really make a difference what configuration or shape of the watercraft is?

Do we have anyone that participates in AOTY with a SUP?

If they were legal I'd spend a little AOTY bass time on one.

If it is only propelled by the manual efforts of the angler does it really make a difference what configuration or shape of the watercraft is?

I think it does, especially when it comes to rowboats and driftboats.

-Allen

I think the "mirage drive" is a foot operated dual bladed paddling system which makes it a-ok in my book.  I want one!

Do we have anyone that participates in AOTY with a SUP?

If they were legal I'd spend some AOTY bass time on one.

Yup snopro, you do need a PA12.   

Personally I could care less if canoes and SUPs were included in AOTY. 

I think I care more about weather double kayaks (and other watercraft) were allowed.

Note there is no official ruling yet, so don't take my personal preference as law.

-Allen