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Fungunnin

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I thought about that. The problem is the gear ratio. The TLD is a 1.3 or something close to that. Any thing more and I think you will be hating life.

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I thought about that. The problem is the gear ratio. The TLD is a 1.3 or something close to that. Any thing more and I think you will be hating life.

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A TLD20 is 1.7 in low gear.

A 114 is 3.25.  But I think you can run the spool empty, and you'll effectively pick up some gear ratio.  OK, so it's not gear ratio you're picking up, but the amount of line you reel for each turn of the crank is a lot less.  It's proportional to the radius and an empty spool is a lot less than 1/2 of a full one.

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Fungunnin

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Howard runs a 30 with three shots on it.

Temped to do it myself.

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kardinal_84

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Discussing amongst friends, I had two people try it with their conventional halibut gear and it was not pretty either times.  One busted reel, one busted rod.  45 minutes one time handlining spectra line with gloves from 500ft while another tried to reel the line up.

Not saying a rod and reel won't work... it obviously does.  But I bet its the super human non-Hobie paddler with arms bigger than my thighs (I imagine Howard is a pretty fit guy) that thinks its more than a one time novelty deal with a rod and reel.

With all the talk about different rod and reel combos, if you are going to buy, you might as well get  cheap manual downrigger.  Gear ratio is 1;1.  Big spool for faster line retrieval with spectra, you can get multiple line shots for multiple pots.    Rock solid boom, and anchored to kayak versus free holding it.  Besides, the downrigger will help you catch fish too!

I have my temporary downrigger mount build for my mini-x here for shrimping:
http://guidesak.blogspot.com/2011_04_01_archive.html

I installed a permanent 360 deg swivel base for my downrigger for my outback. 


Another thought someone had that I think might work better for crabbing because its shallower and more likely to use rope, is to put two scotty pullers on opposite sides of the kayak, then when you retrieve the buoy, attach a counter weight and drop it off the other side to assist your pulling.  My buddy was actually saying take an extra pot and attach the pot to the buoy end and send it down while collecting the pot on the other side.  So you are pulling and dropping a pot at the same time except for the last pull. Not sure how long you folks soak your pots for shrimp in WA.   Seemed like more stuff and almost as much work but he says it works pretty well for him off his power boat.
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polepole

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Howard runs a 30 with three shots on it.

Temped to do it myself.

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I think he runs a 20, but no big deal as I think it is the same gearing and roughly the same spool diameter.

BTW, a 114 is actually 2:1 and a 114H is 2.8:1.  The 113 is 2:1 and a 113H is 3.25:1.

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I would not use a traditional set up of any type. I have used Howard's system to pull two pots from 300+ FOW.
I believe the keys are: low gear ratio, strong drag, short VERY stout rod.

The rod us about three to four feet long and you lay it under your leg then just crank on the reel with it anchored against to boat. The system works well but is still a fair bit of work.

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