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Topic: Looking for C&R Rockfish (other than Blacks)  (Read 3260 times)

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uplandsandpiper

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Monday the ocean is forecast to be flat (2-3 ft at 20 sec). I would like to do some fishing for my big fishing year. I would really like to add some other rockfish species. Not looking to do any retention of anything other than blacks and lings (I'll pinch the barbs).

Would you recommend Depoe, Newport, or Pacific City for other rockfish species? Also any other technique tips would be appreciated. If someone wants to join I would love some company.

Thanks in advance!


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Good luck! I wish I had some good advice for you but I've caught exactly one non black (a yellow eye) rockfish for the hundreds of black rockfish I've caught. Fishing around the kelp   at Depoe seems to produce some variety but usually just greenling and the occasional Irish lord . 


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There was a recent post on another forum from someone who caught a good number of copper rockfish (Sebastes caurinus) from the jetty at Newport.  They were getting them on small white grubs just before dark.
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I already have Black, Quillback, and Copper. I'm looking for Blues, Tiger, Vermillion, and China.


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Ya that was on Ifish, I know youre on there too upland, so if you havent checked it out yet, Id recommend reading it.  I think fishing at dusk and into night would probably increase youre chances.  Its about the same drive to go up to redondo beach and jig around the aquarium there.  It is loaded with brown I copper rockfish (at least I think thats what they were).  I'm actually cofident the larger rockfish were browns, The smaller ones we caught were very spotty and colorful, so they may be coppers or just juvenile browns,  the little guys arent always easy to key out.....However, remember that actually targeting rockfish in ma11 is illegal, so....they would have to be an incental catch  ;D


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We regularly catch blue rockfish at Pacific City, although to be honest I can't tell the difference, but that is what the fish checker tells me. They seem smaller most of the time and I catch them closer to kelp, I think, maybe...

At Depoe just southeast of the buoy (out of the channel) I've caught 2 irish lords in exactly the same spot now. Not much of a tip, but they're there.

If you find out where to target those other species please let me know! :)


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Also, if they open the deep water up to bottom fishing this year after oct 1, go on a charter. You should be able to add yellowtail at least, and prob canary, yelloweye, and some of the deep water species.  Even this weekend, if you go on a charter, you have a decent chance at adding china or canary.  Seems like there is always some of these caught on the charters i go on, which is usually out of depoe


uplandsandpiper

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I saw your post on Ifish Codeman. I actually went to Redondo in hopes of lucking upon one of those Browns you caught and an English Sole. I absolutely pounded the bottom with night crawlers and cut bait smelt. I caught a bazillion Rock Soles, Sanddab, and Dogfish but didn't have the fortune you did with the Brown Rockfish.


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If you have caught blacks you have probably caught blues. The china's are usually right on the bottom, small white grub shallow rocks, less then 50 ft. Vermilion will have to break the 20 fathom rule.
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uplandsandpiper

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Also, if they open the deep water up to bottom fishing this year after oct 1, go on a charter. You should be able to add yellowtail at least, and prob canary, yelloweye, and some of the deep water species.  Even this weekend, if you go on a charter, you have a decent chance at adding china or canary.  Seems like there is always some of these caught on the charters i go on, which is usually out of depoe

As per rules of the big fishing year I can't use charters. However, I usually go on some deep water dory trips in Octover. I should add Widow and Yellowtail then. I already have Yelloweye but one of the other orangies would be nice except they are twice the work when you got to send them back down.


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If you have caught blacks you have probably caught blues. The china's are usually right on the bottom, small white grub shallow rocks, less then 50 ft. Vermilion will have to break the 20 fathom rule.

I've scrutinized every black this year. I know what I am looking for on Blues. I still have not got one. Thanks for the tip on the China's.


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I saw your post on Ifish Codeman. I actually went to Redondo in hopes of lucking upon one of those Browns you caught and an English Sole. I absolutely pounded the bottom with night crawlers and cut bait smelt. I caught a bazillion Rock Soles, Sanddab, and Dogfish but didn't have the fortune you did with the Brown Rockfish.

Thats weird!  Did you happen to fish in close, right in front of the aquarium building on the end of the little pier?  Seems like right up against that aquarium, to out about 50 yards, and to the north about 100 yards,  there were a lot of rockfish, I even caught a double.  My buddies both caught several too, and my buddy from boise caught a real nice 22 to 24 incher.   Surprised you caught dogfish, we hammered the area for 2 days, three of us, and didnt catch a single one.  Were all yours on the cut bait? 
If you want to become an expert in keying out sculpin, try the boston harbor area.  Actually in the harbor, especially the north east part of it, was sculpin city. I caught what i believe is at least 4 species of sculpin, at least just going by  shape and coloration..... maybe more than that. Not really exciting, but something different.


uplandsandpiper

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Yes that is exactly the area I focused on. I used your pics to determine the areas to target.

All the dogfish I caught were on cut bait. It was about 10 minutes between bites. Some nice sized one in there though.


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I've caught Chinas two different times at PC - they were both pretty close to the rock on the north side.
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I've caught blacks, blues, chinas, yellow-eyes and canary rockfish at Pacific City.  I haven't caught one myself, but the first Oregon Rockfish Challenge was held at PC in 2008 and won with an 8 lb vermillion.  The vermilion, yellow-eyes and canary rockfish are often found deep, suffer from barotrauma so they aren't great candidates for C & R fishing. In fact, canaries and yellow-eyes are protected.  As for the blue rockfish, I can't explain why they show up some times and not others, but smaller baits like shrimp flies are the key as they are less likely to attack a larger jig then some of the other rockfish species in the area.   China rockfish are found on the bottom in what is normally cabezon habitat but lately it seems the cabs get to the lure first.
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