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Topic: Next Adventure and kayak carts  (Read 6629 times)

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goldendog

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I made a cart for my Caper using PVC. It has worked fine the few times I have used it at Woahink park rolling down the grass to the lake. Also across some uneven sandy spots with tree roots exposed. I used aluminum round stock for the axle, and bought some wheels that are used on Hobie carts. The wheels were $15 each and the whole thing came to about $50. This included making a trial version that I ended up modifying. It's very light and the wheels come off to store in the yak. I think as long as you take it easy with it, there wouldn't be any problems with it breaking. The PVC pipes extend all the way through the scupper holes, so I can't see how it would cause any damage. Anyway, time will tell!
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I'm So Weak (or opportunistic)

I may have picked up the second to last of the beach wheeled carts for $89 at lunch today.  It was all I could do to get to the register with just that..........  Ok, so maybe I might have gotten a paddle holder and some small caribeaners too.  But, I swear that's all!

Damn you Z!  I blame you personally for facilitating my decent into yak madness!!!!
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I'm So Weak (or opportunistic)
I may have picked up the second to last of the beach wheeled carts for $89 at lunch today. 

Oh the race is on!  I'm out of here in 45 minutes, headed there to see if there are any still left...


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Nice work GD. A few notes about your cart. I think you made the best point about a home built cart. "As long as you take it easy." That's the only way they really work.

Now specifically about your cart, those wheels are the ones that blew up on me. The wheel itself is made of thin walls of plastic. It will crack over time so make sure to check for cracks every now and then and make your decision to retire them before they totally fail. And as to scupper carts in general, they stress the weakest part of our yaks. The part where the hull joins the scupper. Again make regular checks in the scuppers for cracks. I know many people who've had scupper carts and noticed water building up in their yak. Ended up being cracks in them. From there it's repair time.

That's just my take and history so take it for what it's worth to you. And again, nice clean work GD.

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Ok, so maybe I might have gotten a paddle holder and some small caribeaners too.  But, I swear that's all!

Did you notice the sweet carbon fiber paddles on clearance, or the TEVA kayak boots on sale down in the bargain basement, or the spiffy new Hobie wearing the sign "ask about demo'ing me" ?






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Zeelander,

Thank you for the first hand information. Up until now I haven't needed to use a cart, but I hope to be fishing new venues where one is needed. I think it's time to shop around for a decent cart. I surely don't want to ruin my boat, or be stuck somewhere without a cart. Also, I just ordered a FF and battery, so there will be the added weight to consider.

Dave
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goldendog

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Has anyone had any experience with this cart?

http://www.beachcartsusa.com/minitoteframe.htm

It looks like a pretty good deal and I don't think you could find wider tires!

Dave
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Ok, so maybe I might have gotten a paddle holder and some small caribeaners too.  But, I swear that's all!

Did you notice the sweet carbon fiber paddles on clearance, or the TEVA kayak boots on sale down in the bargain basement, or the spiffy new Hobie wearing the sign "ask about demo'ing me" ?



STOP!  STOP!!!!! 

Wait, how much were the carbon fiber paddles?
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.  --Mark Twain

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Dave, 

I have made a number of pvc scupper carts that have worked really well for me with some ridiculous loads and they look just like yours. The best cheap wheels I've found are from children's 4x4's (told them not to leave them in the yard >:D).




Note that I said I built a number of them. That's because I've broken a number of them as well, and they ALWAYS break at the least convent time adhering to Murphy.
That said, I'm on my way to get that last cart from Deek or Brian. Those 4x4 wheels work well in sand, but offer no shock absorption. The pvc frame being the weakest part of the couple, breaks and you have a long haul uphill ::). (those 4x4 wheels are unbreakable though)
The cart that you pointed to is the one that we are all lusting after (that and a carbon fiber paddle). Rooleez wheels are worth their weight in gold (and that from the cheapest man alive) and that cart works!


Nice hat Spot! 
« Last Edit: July 25, 2008, 07:44:10 PM by Fishesfromtupperware »
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FYI, Next Adventure on SE Grand in Portland is clearing out some stuff, including kayak carts.  I picked up a Wheeleez standard model, with the regular tires (as opposed to the beach tires) for $80. 

I left Next Adventure around 6:45pm and they still had about 4 of these left. They are constructed much better than my current POS...

Jay
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Has anyone had any experience with this cart?

http://www.beachcartsusa.com/minitoteframe.htm

It looks like a pretty good deal and I don't think you could find wider tires!

Dave

That's the one I picked up today for $89.00.  Works in my driveway just fine but we'll have to see how it does getting my yak down the cobblestones and across the sand.
Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover.  --Mark Twain

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Team Daiwa        Next Adventure       Kokatat Immersion Gear

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2008 AOTY 1st   2008 ORC 1st  2009 AOTY 1st  2009 NA Sturgeon Derby 1st  2012 Salmon Slayride 3rd  2013 ORC 3rd  2013 NA Sturgeon Derby 2nd  2016 NA Chinook Showdown 3rd  2020 BCS 2nd   2022 BCS 1st


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I have that same type from hobie that goes in the scupper holes. There nice, you'll like it.
See ya on the water..
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I ended up making it over to Next Adventure on Friday after work, before heading out to Olallie Lake.  Picked up the only mini-cart I saw (might have had more in back or someplace else).  Had a chance to test it out this weekend at Olallie.  It worked really well, both on a rough dirt road with lots of rocks, and a trail path with some brush and tree limbs.  The cart functioned fine, I have to practice how I strap it down though, apparently one strap per side of the kayak is key, I was trying to attach both sides of the cart with the same strap, and had the wheels turn the wrong direction a couple times after going over huge un-even rocks.