But how does it paddle? (Slayer Propel and Revo 13)

I know that a lot of the fishing I am likely to do around CdA is going to involve milfoil and weeds.  In those situations, I can see either driving having its limitations, so the question is, how do they paddle?  I know they aren't going to be like paddling my Tsunami, but relative to say, a Predator 13 or a BGII, just how bad is it when you have to paddle your Slayer or your Revo?

Revo = ez
Slayer - the opposite of ez.

My Revo paddles fine in rivers with and without the assist if the rudder. Lakes its a bit different depending on wind.  Keep in mind that my comparison is with my OK Trident 13 which paddles like a dream without the need for a rudder.

No experience with the Slayer.

Revo = ez
Slayer - the opposite of ez.

SP paddles pretty easy as well.  My first trip out saw me a mile offshore with a pedal that had not been tightened down well enough by the shop (and not checked by me...).  Ended up paddling that mile in...not nearly as speedy as the WS Tarpon 140 in front of me, but not a miserable paddle.

 SP is just a lot more boat to paddle.  Still boggles my mind why people here compare these two boats.  Nothing similar but the price...

Revo = ez
Slayer - the opposite of ez.

SP paddles pretty easy as well.  My first trip out saw me a mile offshore with a pedal that had not been tightened down well enough by the shop (and not checked by me...).  Ended up paddling that mile in...not nearly as speedy as the WS Tarpon 140 in front of me, but not a miserable paddle.

 SP is just a lot more boat to paddle.  Still boggles my mind why people here compare these two boats.  Nothing similar but the price...

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Would you mind expanding a bit more on that statement, I'm trying to decide between the two and would be interested in hearing YOUR experience and review of the sp.  The only downside I have heard is the rudder, and that seems to be dependent on the user.
Thanks
John

I have a bunch of seat time in my BG2 fishing and like most non rudder boats doesn't care how thick the weeds and salad are, it just goes well thru it.

Paddles fine, like most any fairly heavy wide stable boat. Takes a couple strokes to get it up to speed then it's just paddle along and enjoy the day.

For me in a fishing yak it's not about the speed or the ability to turn on a dime, it's all about the fishing.

The yak is super stable, I think you would just about fall out of it before it would turtle on you on flat water.

I think on the Propel the gap between the rudder and the hull bottom would be a great milfoil trap, bit I don't have one so it's just my opinion for what's it worth.

I've never experienced any weeds/kelp in the rudder, but have gotten some in the prop.  Just open the hatch, pull the drive and clean it up...hasn't been an issue if I pay attention to where I'm paddling...

Most of my thoughts on the boat are here:
http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=12817.msg144765#msg144765

And the rudder issue has since been remedied on my boat as per this:
http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php?topic=15681.0

The SP is 5" wider, 30 lbs. heavier, comes with all sorts of rails and attachments...has upgraded seats etc.  MUCH more in line with the Hobie Pro Angler...and the PA paddles like crap comparatively.  I compared the PA and SP when buying my boat...and note that the PA comes pretty bare bones as well.  The Revo is not in the same class of boat as the SP.

If you're looking for a super stable boat that allows you to stand up and cast, move in reverse, and comes ready to mount all sorts of rail attachments, SP is a great boat. 

If you want something lighter, and perhaps a bit easier to load/unload, the Revo is a solid option as well.  Apples and oranges.

I will also say that I'm thinking of picking up a cheapy SOT from Fred Meyer specifically to go drop crab pots...because the SP is too painful to manage for just a 20 minute boat ride.  But then again, so is a Revo IMO...

Revo = ez
Slayer - the opposite of ez.

SP paddles pretty easy as well.  My first trip out saw me a mile offshore with a pedal that had not been tightened down well enough by the shop (and not checked by me...).  Ended up paddling that mile in...not nearly as speedy as the WS Tarpon 140 in front of me, but not a miserable paddle.

 SP is just a lot more boat to paddle.  Still boggles my mind why people here compare these two boats.  Nothing similar but the price...

To be fair the tarpon 140 in front of you was being paddled by the best damn paddler these waters had ever seen.

I realize there is a vast difference between the Slayer and the Revo--they just happen to be two of the boats I am considering.  If Native had a lighter and narrower entry, that would be my comparison.  I do have a paddle SINK that I can use as well, although I would never call a Tsunami a speed machine.

I didn't care much for the seats in the Hobie prior to this year, but now I would put the Outback closer to the SP, so I suppose the question about paddling applies there as well.

Have you weighed just the hull on your Slayer?  I've seen the discussion that it actually comes in a bit lighter than published, but if you believe everything you read on the internet...

Hold the phone...WS is showing hints of their pedal drive, and on the new 13' Tarpon could be just the thing!  Wish they had kept the Tarpon just a bit narrower.

http://www.kayakfishmag.com/news/wilderness-systems-motor-drive/

To be fair the tarpon 140 in front of you was being paddled by the best damn paddler these waters had ever seen.

So dignified and debonair on the water as well...

I realize there is a vast difference between the Slayer and the Revo--they just happen to be two of the boats I am considering.

I was more referencing the other thread where the comparisons were made.  I should have made that more clear. 

Have you weighed just the hull on your Slayer?  I've seen the discussion that it actually comes in a bit lighter than published, but if you believe everything you read on the internet...

I haven't, and I don't put much stock in those that do.  It's a heavy boat, and so is the Revo.  Both of them solo car toppable yes, but it gets old quick.  I only solo load/unload when necessary.  Yes, with the seat and drive removed it is lighter...The drive is somewhere around 20 lbs I believe...seat maybe another 5 or so.  Still, 90 lbs. is a bitch to load up solo all the time.

I have had my Slayer Propel for a year now and have used it in saltwater for 90% of  it's use. I have a T- Tail with PVC pipe rollers on my pickup and although sometimes it's hard to get the nose on the rollers it is very easy to load once I do. I do this fully loaded with seat and all the darn lead I need to bottom fish. I think its over 150 lbs that way. When I load it on my Jumping Jack Trailer it's empty and a chore but still doable without killing me. I have noticed my shoulder developing though. I am 62 and I figure I have a few years left in me that I can throw the boat around. I like the boat it paddles pretty well for as big as it is and I don't know what the fuss is about the turning radius, I lean into the turns and it's good enough for me. As already been mentioned the SP is more comparable to a PA.