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Topic: Surviving/comfort when capsized?  (Read 3833 times)

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joecool911

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I'm 6' and 300#. Looking for options for dry suits. Probably prefer ones that don't fit tight like a wet suit. It'd be like wearing a Speedo. Lol. I generally wear a 3xl. Won't do any fishing in water I wouldnt swim in before I get a suit. Like I'd do the Columbia in shorts and water socks.

Do these suits get hot? I can see baking while peddling out at pacific city in last weeks weather. Even though the water is still too cold to survive long. Does it help to sit side saddle with your feet in the water when it's hot?


Northwoods

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They do get toasty on a warm sunny day.  If you can swing the cost get a Gore-Tex suit as they'll breath better than the less costly suits.
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Trident 13

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Always a debate.  I have a Gore-Tex kokatat I wear in the cold or inclement weather.  I can't stand the heat and accept the right of lighter paddle pants (with socks), knee high boots and a paddle jacket in the summer.
Right now off Google: (not your size, but keep your eyes open and expect $1K)
Kokatat Gore-Tex Front Entry Drysuit - Men's Mango/Black, S
Kokatat Gore‑Tex Front Entry Drysuit ‑ Men's Mango/Black, S
$527.97 - Google Trusted StoreBackcountry.com

Do you have a partner or paddle alone. How quick can you get back in.  Is that time assuming you can still reach your kayak, etc. How cold is the water.  Does your re-entry time include cold stiff hands. Is your phone and/or radio attached to you.  Can you avoid hypothermia until someone gets there even if you can call. Are you going where there is other traffic.  Should you count on that. Have you looked at the forecast.  Around here does that even matter.  Heat and dehydration are not good either.  A dry-suit left open to vent gets heavy in seconds if you take a dunk.
I keep a good connection to my kayak (retractable dog leash).  I have a sit-on-top I can get in easily, and have tested it.  I keep other lines to a minimum. I have flotation in the bow and stern that will keep the kayak afloat.  I know it's easier to go to the front and grasp the forward hatch straps to slide myself up as the front of the kayak dips. I wear an inflatable PFD if the conditions are lighter and a regular PFD if it's exciting.  If alone I frequently trail a light 10 foot floating cord.  On long outings I've carried a SPOT and pay the insurance for a emergency response.  (wife is still not impressed but doesn't want a delay for insurance reasons). 
You can find someone to both agree and disagree with nearly any position, but ultimately its your call.  Good to ask for advice from many.


Mojo Jojo

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I'm 5'8 ish 245lbs I absolutely HATE the heat, I was the garbage man in shorts and a tank top in late October. I wear a wet suit if it's a little colder I put a windbreaker over it, if I start to heat up I dump water on myself and cool right off.



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Tinker

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Dump water on your survival suit.  Cools it right down.  Repeat as necessary.

Seems to me that too many folks worry about feeling hot when they're dry - and don't seem to worry enough about being cold when they're in the water.

Read the article on "How long will it take to be rescued" at http://www.coldwatersafety.org/
« Last Edit: August 27, 2016, 06:15:46 PM by Tinker »
The fish bite twice a day - just before we get here and right after we leave.


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pmmpete

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I'm 6' and 300#. Looking for options for dry suits. Probably prefer ones that don't fit tight like a wet suit.
You can kayak in comfort in cold windy rainy nasty weather, and even when it's snowing, if you have an appropriate number of layers of insulating clothing under your drysuit.  To provide space for several layers of thick clothing, get a drysuit which fits loosely and is baggy.  I'm 6 feet tall and weigh 175 pounds, so I don't have any difficulty finding drysuits which fit loosely and are baggy.  Because you are 6 feet tall and weigh 300 pounds, you may have trouble finding a drysuit which fits loosely and is baggy.  Good luck.

Do these suits get hot? I can see baking while peddling out at pacific city in last weeks weather. Even though the water is still too cold to survive long. Does it help to sit side saddle with your feet in the water when it's hot?
If the weather warms up during the day and you get hot, splash water on your drysuit, hang your feet in the water, and dunk your hat in the water.  They'll all help.  But the opposite can happen.  The weather can get cold, windy, and rainy during the day, and you can get cold.  You can add layers over a drysuit to keep warm, but if you end up in the water, they get heavy and may make it harder for you to get back onto your kayak.

You can make compromises on how much clothing you wear under your drysuit, as long as you recognize the risks involved.  If the weather is warm, or is expected to get warm, you can wear a minimum of clothing under your drysuit, as long as you recognize that if you end up in the water for more than a couple of minutes, you'll get cold, and if the weather deteriorates, you'll get cold. 
« Last Edit: August 28, 2016, 08:21:35 PM by pmmpete »


Dark Tuna

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Find some place you can try on a dry suit.  Seriously.

I fit into an XL suit with room to spare, with the exception of my calves.  Go figure.  Folks at Kayak Academy thought the XL was fine until they saw how snug the calves fit.  The XL Kokatat was roomy everywhere else.  Up-sized to XXL to keep circulation in my feet, and burp the suit to keep from looking like Bibendum.

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Kyle M

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Can you get back into your boat once you are out? No type of immersion gear will save you if you can't get back in and paddle to shore. Practice if you haven't yet.


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Tinker

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Can you get back into your boat once you are out? No type of immersion gear will save you if you can't get back in and paddle to shore.

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The fish bite twice a day - just before we get here and right after we leave.


 

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