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Topic: Tidewater Chinook methods for kayaks  (Read 3227 times)

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Drifter2007

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What are people's favorite methods for Tidewater Chinook?
From my drift boat I used to like to slow troll kwikfish. Did pretty good on occasion.

Obviously bobber and eggs (with or without sand shrimp) would be easy to do, I just don't have any eggs, and I never cared much for store bought, and send shrimp frustrate me with their lack of lasting freshness.

I will probably be trying the Alsea and/or Siletz primarily.

Suggestions?
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I like to run a green label cut-plug herring in a Dick's Sure Spin helmet behind a triangle flasher. On the Siuslaw, I'll run with a 10-12 ounce dropper weight. Alsea, I'll run a 4-6 ounce weight due to the shallow nature of the tidewater (you want a longer setback from the kayak).

But on the Siletz, I've seen way more fish caught on the Pro Troll+spinner rig than anything else. If you go there, I'd definitely run this rig.
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I've had great success with whole herring trolled with just lead (no flasher, no dodger).  "naked" as they call it.
Bobber and Eggs works great on deep holes - been productive with this on Salmon, Siletz, Nehalem, Nestucca.  I have some fresh eggs just cured up if you'd like to try some.  This often works great with a "cocktail" adding sandshrimp and tuna belly.  Chinook can't resist it.
The 360 flasher and spinner has also been a productive method for me on the Siletz. It's great because it's hardware and not bait, but it sure does hurt when a setup gets snagged or lost.

Do you guys think this past couple days of rain have triggered the chinook into the tidewaters?  Has there been any reports of chinook success on the central coast rivers?


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No.  Ask me tomorrow.

There wasn't much rain down this way and the rivers/bays/estuaries may still be rather warm but I belive I shall endeavor to find a salmon who likes me.
The fish bite twice a day - just before we get here and right after we leave.


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I know the boat traffic on the Nestucca has picked per the webcam so someone must have caught something there by now.

I have not done great on fall salmon the last few years but previously on the Alsea I had a few good seasons trolling Bob Toman spinners or herring with or without a flasher. Two ounces of weight usually.


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Do you guys think this past couple days of rain have triggered the chinook into the tidewaters?  Has there been any reports of chinook success on the central coast rivers?
I've heard of fish caught in Alsea, Siuslaw, and Yaquina lately. Just not a lot, which is aligning with the run forecast. Alsea has fish all the way into the upper tidewater, and that was before the rain.
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Fly rod- intermediate line and something in a chart. color with lots of flash- 4" to 6"range.
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I doubt that I will find time to try anytime soon. The last weekend of September we have a room reserved in Gleneden and I for sure want to bring the kayak and fish the Siletz.

My birthday is in October. Last year I worked on my birthday and the asphalt tack sprayer blew up in my face and got me an ER visit on workman's comp. I told my work there is no chance of me working this year, so I may fish October 9th as well.
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Got one in Yaquina today. Also released a small Coho. Cut-plug herring behind a Short Bus triangle flasher, 20 FOW, right on the bottom. Buddy nearby limited out his boat of 3, and released a monster Coho. Pretty convenient to catch salmon only a few minutes from home!
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Backyard Brawlin! Nice work Chris
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I've had great success with whole herring trolled with just lead (no flasher, no dodger).  "naked" as they call it.

While bobber and eggs and spinners can work well in upper tidewater, for lower tidewater, it's hard to beat a trolled herring all by itself.

Here's some Tillamook Bay action on "naked herring".  Sorry 'bout the video quality.
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Lots of power boats trolling the ghost hole today, might mean something  ;)



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Here's some Tillamook Bay action on "naked herring".  Sorry 'bout the video quality.

FAKE NEWS!  Everyone knows you can't troll unless you have pedals!   >:D

The video tells the story just fine, Mark.  Thanks for posting it.
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