Depoe Bay salmon reports, 2020

Opening weekend consisted of rough seas, but the upcoming holiday weekend is looking favorable. Who's giving it a go?

The coho forecast and subsequent quotas are relatively small this year, but I'm holding out hope that the (relatively) robust CA Central Valley Chinook forecast makes a good showing along the Oregon coast. CWT data from last year showed the vast majority of Chinook landed along the central Oregon coast originated from CA Central Valley hatcheries.

I'll post up reports here as the season progresses. Feel free to add your own  .

CWT data from last year showed the vast majority of Chinook landed along the central Oregon coast originated from CA Central Valley hatcheries.

Curious for a source to this, you pull it directly down from RMIS?

CWT data from last year showed the vast majority of Chinook landed along the central Oregon coast originated from CA Central Valley hatcheries.

Curious for a source to this, you pull it directly down from RMIS?

This data's available from the ODFW website, specifically here:
https://nrimp.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/default.aspx?p=358

Looking up catch data for Newport in 2019, out of the 52 Chinook they recorded with CWTs, over 75% of them came from CA Central Valley (not including the one from Santa Cruz):
https://nrimp.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/default.aspx?pn=grid&fishery=11&port=Newport&species=CHINOOK&start=05%2f01%2f19&end=10%2f01%2f19


The same trend applies to commercial troll fisheries as well, which includes a more robust dataset compared to the sport catch. Big thanks go out to Mokelumne River hatchery in CA for supplying the bulk of the 2019 ocean Chinook catch for the Oregon Coast!

Every time I look at this thread I expect you to post up pictures of salmon.
I'm out there on the 5th and probably the 6th.
Not going anywhere near that madness on the 4th.

CWT data from last year showed the vast majority of Chinook landed along the central Oregon coast originated from CA Central Valley hatcheries.

Curious for a source to this, you pull it directly down from RMIS?

This data's available from the ODFW website, specifically here:
https://nrimp.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/default.aspx?p=358

Looking up catch data for Newport in 2019, out of the 52 Chinook they recorded with CWTs, over 75% of them came from CA Central Valley (not including the one from Santa Cruz):
https://nrimp.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/default.aspx?pn=grid&fishery=11&port=Newport&species=CHINOOK&start=05%2f01%2f19&end=10%2f01%2f19


The same trend applies to commercial troll fisheries as well, which includes a more robust dataset compared to the sport catch. Big thanks go out to Mokelumne River hatchery in CA for supplying the bulk of the 2019 ocean Chinook catch for the Oregon Coast!

Thanks Chris. You want to be careful with coming up with stock compositions from raw CWT recoveries as they don't account for the tagging rate or sampling rates. Normally for a stock comp it's something like ((tagged releases / total releases) * # tags recovered) / sampling rate, which produces an estimated number of tags you can compare between stocks. I'm sure youre close if the tagging rate out of the CA hatcheries are similar to the more local OR ones.

Every time I look at this thread I expect you to post up pictures of salmon.
I'm out there on the 5th and probably the 6th.
Not going anywhere near that madness on the 4th.

You're right, I should add some visuals to stoke the salmon fire. Here's a quick limit from July 1 last year. I was done before 0800 that morning.

I'll likely see you out there on the 5th and possibly the 6th.

Thanks Chris. You want to be careful with coming up with stock compositions from raw CWT recoveries as they don't account for the tagging rate or sampling rates. Normally for a stock comp it's something like ((tagged releases / total releases) * # tags recovered) / sampling rate, which produces an estimated number of tags you can compare between stocks. I'm sure youre close if the tagging rate out of the CA hatcheries are similar to the more local OR ones.

Very true. I made a bunch of shaky assumptions with my statements above. Though I think it's safe to assume the CA Central Valley stocks play a significant role in the central Oregon Coast ocean Chinook fisheries.

Thanks Chris. You want to be careful with coming up with stock compositions from raw CWT recoveries as they don't account for the tagging rate or sampling rates. Normally for a stock comp it's something like ((tagged releases / total releases) * # tags recovered) / sampling rate, which produces an estimated number of tags you can compare between stocks. I'm sure youre close if the tagging rate out of the CA hatcheries are similar to the more local OR ones.

Very true. I made a bunch of shaky assumptions with my statements above. Though I think it's safe to assume the CA Central Valley stocks play a significant role in the central Oregon Coast ocean Chinook fisheries.

True, generally the Columbia drives most of the fisheries North of it and it's CA South of it. Last year for some reason those CA tags showed up in big numbers everywhere. We saw an usually high number in the Strait. I'll take a look at it if I have time after work today. Ive built R and Python packages that look at this, and I can point them anywhere on the West Coast and Idaho.

not sure about salmon (what do i need to bring?) hope to catch loads of the bottom dwellers, as well as cabezon... retention starts the 1st. will be there to fish friday thru sunday maybe monday too.

not sure about salmon (what do i need to bring?) hope to catch loads of the bottom dwellers, as well as cabezon... retention starts the 1st. will be there to fish friday thru sunday maybe monday too.

Right on, I forgot about the cabezon opener. I'm sure you'll have no problems stacking the white meat!

As for salmon, a lot of ways to skin that cat. It's mostly open water trolling in the top 50 feet of the water column. A lead cannonball sinker or a diver, flasher optional, and your salmon bait of choice will do it. Hell, even just a straight spinner with no flasher can work. When it comes to coho, don't overthink it: when they're in and on the bite, they'll bite just about anything. Chinook tend to be a bit more finicky. Personally, I'm a fan of the Brad's Cut Plug Superbaits this time of year. They're effective for both species and eliminate the need to re-bait when the coho get in their pecking/slashing moods that usually ruin a herring.

Looking at sport Chinook CWT recoveries off Florence, Depoe Bay and Newport. The Feather (2012-2014) and Mokelumne (2016-2019) hatcheries being the largest drivers of your guys' sport fishery.

Nice graphic, thanks for sharing. Without looking it up, I believe the CA Central Valley Chinook forecast for this year is in the 400k range. Higher than last year's forecast and return. Hoping they make a good showing up here this year.

thanks clayman, cu out there. would be great to see some salmon, if like last year will def have to give it a go sometime.

Looking at sport Chinook CWT recoveries off Florence, Depoe Bay and Newport. The Feather (2012-2014) and Mokelumne (2016-2019) hatcheries being the largest drivers of your guys' sport fishery.

Interesting info workhard/clayman. Thanks for sharing it.

Workhard is your R package on CRAN? I'd love to check it out.

I'm also eying the 5-7th its looking pretty nice now. Trying not to get my hopes up too much that the forecast will hold. 2020 seems to love dumping on my dreams.

Clayman do you head towards structure and then look for birds when you're searching for fish? Or target water depths? This is all new to me so any info would be greatly appreciated.

CWT data from last year showed the vast majority of Chinook landed along the central Oregon coast originated from CA Central Valley hatcheries.

Curious for a source to this, you pull it directly down from RMIS?

This data's available from the ODFW website, specifically here:
https://nrimp.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/default.aspx?p=358

Looking up catch data for Newport in 2019, out of the 52 Chinook they recorded with CWTs, over 75% of them came from CA Central Valley (not including the one from Santa Cruz):
https://nrimp.dfw.state.or.us/MRP/default.aspx?pn=grid&fishery=11&port=Newport&species=CHINOOK&start=05%2f01%2f19&end=10%2f01%2f19


The same trend applies to commercial troll fisheries as well, which includes a more robust dataset compared to the sport catch. Big thanks go out to Mokelumne River hatchery in CA for supplying the bulk of the 2019 ocean Chinook catch for the Oregon Coast!

In that case California should open a mark selective coho fishery.  We catch Oregon's marked coho around here often enough.