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coosbayyaker

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 if yer catching bullhead, yer probably fishing on a large rock bottom area. Is that condusive to Sturgeon?

I caught one trolling for Salmon last year..
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 if yer catching bullhead, yer probably fishing on a large rock bottom area. Is that condusive to Sturgeon?

I caught one trolling for Salmon last year..

If you're catching Pacific Staghorn Sculpin you could be on mud as well.  Those guys seem to be everywhere.

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Actually in most of the United States a bullhead is a type of small catfish.

Fish geek or not Brian you're gonna have to get used to our Northwest coloquialisms.  Damn Californians!   ;)

If you wanna know why we call them Bullhead, grab one by placing a finger on each side it's gill plate. 
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Actually in most of the United States a bullhead is a type of small catfish.

Fish geek or not Brian you're gonna have to get used to our Northwest coloquialisms.  Damn Californians!   ;)

If you wanna know why we call them Bullhead, grab one by placing a finger on each side it's gill plate. 

Actually, I'm from Upstate New York.  The few years I did live in California they called sculpins bullhead too.   ???

Anyway, the authoritative list of common fish names in North America has bullhead listed as the small catfish I was referring too and not sculpins...

Nelson, J. S., E. J. Crossman, H. Espinosa-Pérez, L. T. Findley, C. R. Gilbert, R. N. Lea, and J. D. Williams. 2004. Common and scientific names of fishes from the United States, Canada, and Mexico. Sixth edition. American Fisheries Society Special Publication 29.

Maybe everyone could do me a favor and start using the scientific names so I don't get confused anymore.   ;D

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Maybe everyone could do me a favor and start using the scientific names so I don't get confused anymore.   ;D


That reply deserves the Equus Asinus Hat.

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ODFW even refers to bullheads as a type of small catfish..

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/warm_water_fishing/bullheads.asp
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Maybe everyone could do me a favor and start using the scientific names so I don't get confused anymore.   ;D


That reply deserves the Equus Asinus Hat.

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ODFW even refers to bullheads as a type of small catfish..

http://www.dfw.state.or.us/warm_water_fishing/bullheads.asp

So does the WDFW... 

Bullhead will eat just about anything they can find.  (Kinda like this guy I brought home below- this is actually how he was when I pulled in the stringer at the end of the day)


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i like to spear them in the head with the tip of the hook as they try and rob my roe. little bastards.

if you look in fly catelogues, you will see lots of egg sucking sculpin type flies specifically for salmon.

i never caught a salmon with eggs hanging out of a sculpins mouth, but after 15 or 20 of those bastards robbing me, they become the bait.

they will drive you crazy in tide water in estuaries & lower rivers. they like woody debris....so pools & eddies are full of them.


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 if yer catching bullhead, yer probably fishing on a large rock bottom area. Is that condusive to Sturgeon?

I caught one trolling for Salmon last year..

If you're catching Pacific Staghorn Sculpin you could be on mud as well.  Those guys seem to be everywhere.

-Allen


thats funny, I never thought of them being in any other inviron than the large rocks I jig around in for them as bait.
 I do know you can catch them on most any thing meaty. But then, I rarely get more than 27 miles from home, so I am limited in my knowledge for sure.
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I grew up in Texas mostly fishing for catfish/crappie/bass as a kid. A bullhead is a catfish in the south.

I can see the reasons for callin sculpin bullheads with their little horn things, but it just makes it confusing. it's like calling a lingcod a large mouth.


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I'm still gonna call catfish, catfish and sculpins bullheads.....and i'm gonna call Cabbies sculpin and Ling's, giant greenling, just to be more confusing..

Sculpins is listed as bullheads before catfish in the wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullhead
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I'm still gonna call catfish, catfish and sculpins bullheads.....and i'm gonna call Cabbies sculpin and Ling's, giant greenling, just to be more confusing..

Sculpins is listed as bullheads before catfish in the wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullhead

That's because people like us write the definitions on wikipedia...it aint coming from webster or britanica.


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I'm still gonna call catfish, catfish and sculpins bullheads.....

Sculpins is listed as bullheads before catfish in the wikipedia....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bullhead


You'll notice that the "bullheads" listed are all European sculpins.


Here is the list of species with the common name "bullhead"  is used in the United States according to Fishbase.org

http://www.fishbase.org


Common Name   Country   Species   Type
African bullhead   USA   Lophiobagrus cyclurus   AFS
Black bullhead   USA   Ameiurus melas   AFS
Brown bullhead   USA   Ameiurus nebulosus   AFS
Bullhead   USA   Ameiurus melas   Market
Bullhead   USA   Ameiurus natalis   Market
Bullhead   USA   Ameiurus platycephalus   Market
Bullhead minnow   USA   Pimephales vigilax   AFS
Flat bullhead   USA   Ameiurus platycephalus   AFS
Japanease bullhead shark   USA   Heterodontus japonicus   Vernacular
Snail bullhead   USA   Ameiurus brunneus   AFS
Spotted bullhead   USA   Ameiurus serracanthus   AFS
Yellow bullhead   USA   Ameiurus natalis   AFS
Zebra bullhead shark   USA   Heterodontus ramalheira   Vernacular

All the species listed here in the genus "Ameriurus" are catfish.  None of the species listed here are sculpins.

However, "bullhead" is listed as common names for various sculpins in Europe and Canada.  


Bullhead   Canada   Cottus asper   Vernacular
Prickly bullhead   Canada   Cottus asper   Vernacular
Bullhead   Can Br Colum   Cottus asper   Vernacular
Prickly bullhead   Can Br Colum   Cottus asper   Vernacular
Bullhead   Can Br Colum   Cottus bairdii   Vernacular
Bear Lake bullhead   Canada   Cottus cognatus   Vernacular
Bear Lake bullhead   Can Br Colum   Cottus cognatus   Vernacular
European bullhead   Former USSR   Cottus gobio   Vernacular
Bullhead   UK   Cottus gobio   Vernacular
Alpine bullhead   UK   Cottus poecilopus   Vernacular
Bullhead   Canada   Hemilepidotus hemilepidotus   Vernacular
Bullhead   Can Br Colum   Hemilepidotus hemilepidotus   Vernacular
Bullhead   Can Br Colum   Hemitripterus americanus   Vernacular
Bullhead   Can Br Colum   Myoxocephalus octodecemspinosus   Vernacular
Bullhead   UK   Myoxocephalus scorpius   Vernacular


So Roy, if you want to continue your un-American, Euro-loving ways, and continue to call sculpins bullheads.. go for it.

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