Kayak Cart

I'm now looking to purchase a Kayak Cart I have read many positive comments about the Wheelers Cart I'm hurting from all the money I have already spent on my other gear, so I'm cringing on the thought of spending 200.00 on this Hartwell this cart break down and fit in my OK T-13S Bow Hatch? Is it worth waiting a few more weeks and spending the big bucks? I don't want to be saying Man Why Didn't I Buy a Wheelers?”


What do you guys feel about this product?
http://www.outdoorplay.com/store/Product.asp?DID=134&PDID=12&SKU=EOU_PBSCP

I like the thought of not having to fuss around with the stripiest I do wonder if my kayak is going to bounce around while getting it to the beach and would this cause damage to my kayak? (it's my baby)…

Another question off the subject I recall seeing a post about Kayak Fishing/Launching places compiled on Go ogle Earth I believe Steve's, can't find IT help!!

Chuck

Go to Alder Creek, Andy & Bax, or Next Adventure
you can get a Seattle Sports cart for a significant amount less than that scupper cart. yes, you will have to strap it on, but its something you will get used to, and its not all that difficult.. its also a much safer transport.

and here are some launch sites
http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,3470.0.html

Do not buy the Scupper Pup!  I did.  You can have it if you want it, but one of the upper posts is a little bent, about 15 degrees. The wheels bog down in sand.  It bent, got loose at all the joints, screws rusted.  Started to show wear about the third beach launch.  Nice concept, poor execution.  If you stick to pavement, i.e., boat launches, it is sufficient.

I now use a Wheelez and love it.  The Wheelez tire/wheels fit in the front hatch, and the frame can strap down on the front.  I have not used the supplied straps with the Wheelez but use two bungees.  However, I've been hauling over relatively smooth sand.  If I was going over rougher ground and/or a long haul I would take the effort to use the straps.  After losing one of the supplied stainless cotter pins, I replaced them both with something a bit more secure, stainless, from the hardware store.  (Take them off and IMMEDIATELY stow in PFD).

A number of DIY carts have been posted that look very good.  Something designed like the Scupper Pup with Wheelez wheels out of heavy PVC might work well for the T13.  Should use pipe large enough diameter to minimize slop in the scuppers.  

In case you're interested in the Seattle Sports cart, I still have this one available ... http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,2339.0.html

-Allen

Or make your own.

hey, that's pretty slick.. how hard is it to peddle long distance with that rig? or is it strictly a short distance lash up?

As far as sand goes it works fine on hard sand, not great, but ok if you have some decent leg drive . It is a total no go on sand that is soft, either to dry or to wet.  On pavement or packed gravel it works great and I have used it several times to take the yak down the road to launch in the bay. Not so great on the hills, would help if my bike was better geared.  For sand I have decided it is easier and only slightly slower to just pull the cart by hand at a brisk walk.  It was my initial prototype and I need to make some improvements if I plan to keep using it.  

Do not buy the Scupper Pup!  I did.  You can have it if you want it, but one of the upper posts is a little bent, about 15 degrees. The wheels bog down in sand.  It bent, got loose at all the joints, screws rusted.  Started to show wear about the third beach launch.  Nice concept, poor execution.  If you stick to pavement, i.e., boat launches, it is sufficient.

I now use a Wheelez and love it.  The Wheelez tire/wheels fit in the front hatch, and the frame can strap down on the front.  I have not used the supplied straps with the Wheelez but use two bungees.  However, I've been hauling over relatively smooth sand.  If I was going over rougher ground and/or a long haul I would take the effort to use the straps.  After losing one of the supplied stainless cotter pins, I replaced them both with something a bit more secure, stainless, from the hardware store.  (Take them off and IMMEDIATELY stow in PFD).

A number of DIY carts have been posted that look very good.  Something designed like the Scupper Pup with Wheelez wheels out of heavy PVC might work well for the T13.  Should use pipe large enough diameter to minimize slop in the scuppers.  

Thanks for the info Demonick.  It sure looked good on paper…but I guess you get what you pay for in this case less. Thanks also for the offer on the one that you purchased. I think I’ll pass sounds like it’s in pretty bad shape, not worth the drive to pick it up!
Hey by the way how did your cigar style plug for your fish finder work out? Is it holding up to the salt and how is it working when you want to charge you battery?  Your idea looks to be a great one something I might try to do on my Yak in the next few months, if you don’t mind me steeling you idea!

Chuck

In case you're interested in the Seattle Sports cart, I still have this one available ... http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,2339.0.html

-Allen

How much are you willing to let it go for?
Is it New?

Chuck

In case you're interested in the Seattle Sports cart, I still have this one available ... http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,2339.0.html

-Allen

How much are you willing to let it go for?
Is it New?

Chuck

It is used but not abused.  $40 plus shipping.

-Allen

In case you're interested in the Seattle Sports cart, I still have this one available ... http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,2339.0.html

-Allen

How much are you willing to let it go for?
Is it New?

Chuck

It is used but not abused.  $40 plus shipping.

-Allen

After further thought…I’m going to pass, but thanks for the offer!

Chuck

Hey by the way how did your cigar style plug for your fish finder work out? Is it holding up to the salt and how is it working when you want to charge your battery?  Your idea looks to be a great one something I might try to do on my Yak in the next few months, if you don’t mind me steeling you idea!

First, it is not "stealing" it is "sharing".  Who was it that said, "I steal all my best material"?

The marine plug is working great.  It is mounted on the forward wall under the Sonar Shield which I keep closed so it is protected.  I'd have to take a huge wave or huli for it to get soaked.  I have a cheap cigarette plug on my charger and just plug the charger into the marine plug on the boat.  Works great - I never need to remove the battery from the boat.  Seems to take about as much time to fully charge as I used.

I also got another Humminbird power cable and put another cigarette plug on that and use it with a portable jump start battery for living room play with the FF.

Did you get the battery bag with your T13A?  Mine was missing and when I discovered from this site that I should have received one, I contacted the retailer and they sent me one free of charge. 

Did I post my installation write-upon this site or did I send you the link to my prototype kayak site?

Hey by the way how did your cigar style plug for your fish finder work out? Is it holding up to the salt and how is it working when you want to charge your battery?  Your idea looks to be a great one something I might try to do on my Yak in the next few months, if you don’t mind me steeling you idea!

First, it is not "stealing" it is "sharing".  Who was it that said, "I steal all my best material"?

The marine plug is working great.  It is mounted on the forward wall under the Sonar Shield which I keep closed so it is protected.  I'd have to take a huge wave or huli for it to get soaked.  I have a cheap cigarette plug on my charger and just plug the charger into the marine plug on the boat.  Works great - I never need to remove the battery from the boat.  Seems to take about as much time to fully charge as I used.

I also got another Humminbird power cable and put another cigarette plug on that and use it with a portable jump start battery for living room play with the FF.

Did you get the battery bag with your T13A?  Mine was missing and when I discovered from this site that I should have received one, I contacted the retailer and they sent me one free of charge.  

Did I post my installation write-upon this site or did I send you the link to my prototype kayak site?

Yes the battery bag came installed. I did notice that it was mounted the same way you mounted yours. I adjusted the straps so the bag is all the up towards the bow. It made more sense to me as well to keep it well out of the way of your gear etc. etc.  I don’t like the small washers holding the straps either and the rubber washers seem to be old (brittle slightly cracked) need to replaced.
I did see the post and I looked at your Web Page as well. I printed it and have it on file for a future project, after I save some cash for the Fish Finder!
I like the way you think!

Thanks for adding the Pic’s Job well done!!

Chuck

Scupper carts are a great way to damage your yak. Avoid them at all costs. Good brands are WheelEez, Seattle Sports, C-Tug. Look for ones that will fold down. I personally use the WheelEez beach with the big balloon tires and love that bugger. It's like a monster truck and has even gotten me over 12" cobbles. Kayak carts are expensive, no doubt, but the reputable brands rarely break. After a long day and a heavy kayak that cart will be worth every dime spent. Dare I mention the disaster stories of kayak carts breaking..

Or make your own.

How much does that thing weigh again??

Z

Or make your own.

How much does that thing weigh again??

Z


Ok.. Its a little heavy ..  its all about the workout right? 45lbs is nothing right? .  On the flip side it will handle two fully loaded yaks piggybacked, towed by a OHV..   That said, I would buy a nice cart if I wasn't so damn cheap