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I'm working on a camera. Every time I get a few spare Franklin's in my wallet, someone else decides they need to spend them for me. I'm holding out for that Go Pro Hero Cam HD.

I'm really impressed with your Rod Pod lid. That is on my winter project list.
« Last Edit: November 01, 2009, 11:26:47 PM by troutnut »


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When I made the original post I didn't expect all the responses.  It is great to get all this information.  Thanks!


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NANOOK, I was replying to the OP.  When I get around to it, I'll be bolting clips onto my Plano box that'll hook right into where OK ties their bungee.

I do agree, SOTs need bulkheads.  I know the Dorado has one, but don't know of another SOT that does. Of course, there aren't that many 'glassed SOTs out there either.  I assume the rotomolding process makes that difficult. 

No not really. just about every kayak except for the cheapest recreation boats (rotomold, thermoformed, glass, kevlar, carbon, wood, etc) have bulkheads. It's an issue of safety and flotation.

I called certain manufacturers to get specs on cross sections so I could install my own bulkhead. Their reaction was shock and confusion. They could not understand why you would need bulkheads in a SOT because the "hull is closed".

Really? what about the rod pod and hatch with a weak seal so big I could fit a keg through it.? what about the 50 holes I drilled/cut in this thing to install accessories? What if a seam on a scupper blows? I just don't understand why they think SOT's are any different than any kayak. Really I don't think they though of this when making the molds and don't want to retool. You'd have to change some things in design to allow access to install bulkheads on most SOT's

It's kinda stupid at this point, and I'm pretty sure next year you will see some foam bulkeads in SOTs.

I digress


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Degrees ... it's all about degrees.

In a SIK, if you bail, your kayak fills up almost instantaneously.  Bulkheads are really good in this situation.  The chances of having a SOT fill instantaneously like in a SIK bail situation are much lower.

Most whitewater kayaks don't have bulkheads, at least they didn't back when I WW kayaked.  But you use float bags.  But again, you had the high probability of filling instantaneously in a bail situation.

Hmmm ... are we going to have the discussion on pool noodles again?   >:D

Are bulkheads a good thing?  Sure!!! Except they get in the way of storing my full length rods.  But that's probably a solvable problem ...

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Except they get in the way of storing my full length rods. are we going to have the discussion on pool noodles again?
NOODLES!! :happy11:

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Except they get in the way of storing my full length rods. are we going to have the discussion on pool noodles again?
NOODLES!! :happy11:

Z

Yep... ;)
Where do you put them and how do you secure them ???
I know I'll be see the thread here soon... ;D

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Where do you put them and how do you secure them ???
I slide 3-4 inside the gunwale area of each side and let the shape of the yak hold them in place. The scupper moldings and other thing in there do a good job of keeping them still. I just make sure that there's still plenty of room to slide poles in for surf launches.

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not so sure what the fascination with bulkheads is, but i think i'd really like to see cross members/ frames in a few places on the longer SOTs. just nice reinforcing at certain parts of the boat, each of which have an open center, just like the frame members on an aircraft. that should take care of several of our troubles downstairs including things sliding around.

several months back, after reading of the sinking of a yak at one of our sister group events, i got a wild hair up a certain part of my anatomy, and started asking around about float bags for SOTs, and got much the same vexed and puzzled answers from many of the vendors i talked to. many of them had no idea what i was talking about when i said SOT for Fishing.... except, finally a younger member of a  group in Tenn. finally "got it" as did our own Alkasazi  as soon as i mentioned it.. i still think float bags are a good idea. but putting a large canoe bow bag in my T15 will take some re thinking of interior space usage.

noodles? nah. not unless they're in Pad Thai
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Degrees ... it's all about degrees.

In a SIK, if you bail, your kayak fills up almost instantaneously.  Bulkheads are really good in this situation.  The chances of having a SOT fill instantaneously like in a SIK bail situation are much lower.

Most whitewater kayaks don't have bulkheads, at least they didn't back when I WW kayaked.  But you use float bags.  But again, you had the high probability of filling instantaneously in a bail situation.

Hmmm ... are we going to have the discussion on pool noodles again?   >:D

Are bulkheads a good thing?  Sure!!! Except they get in the way of storing my full length rods.  But that's probably a solvable problem ...

-Allen

No, no, no.....I like noodles. BUT I do think having 1 bulkhead behind the front hatch would be good...you could still store rods behind it, and not have your gear from the front hatch end up in the stern.


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No, no, no.....I like noodles. BUT I do think having 1 bulkhead behind the front hatch would be good...you could still store rods behind it, and not have your gear from the front hatch end up in the stern.

Yup, that wouldn't be half bad.

-Allen


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I use poodle noodle tech to create a pseudo bulkhead then use the noodle holes to hold my rods. I also rib the hull with smaller noodles to create some added floatation, take up some of the dead space, and then store my gear between the ribs to keep everything in place. I dab a spot of marine goop about every foot to hold them in place and it is easy to remove if needed.
currently ribbing a 09 T160. Ill post pictures when its complete.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2009, 12:51:48 AM by hydrospider »


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Absolutly beautiful!
Love the noodle setup, love the choice or reels, and I love the choice of brews! Fan-friggin-tastic!
Thanks for sharing!
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X2 That's a great setup. Good to see you around Hydrospidey!

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Beer for ballast.  What a great idea


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I have also used the noodles up on the edge but i multi tasked them by running the cables from my fish finder to the battery up in the nose thru the pool noodle and anchored it will a little marine glue along the upper edge. i also did this for the transducer cable which i have mounted under my bottom in a foam type mount. i ran the cable thru another noodle.. keeps the cables out of the way and gives me some more bouncy and controlled storage.
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