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Topic: The 8 week kayak company  (Read 10786 times)

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[WR]

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Those were NuCanoe's.  No scupper holes.  When they first came out I told them they should consider an oar kit.  A couple years later, they came out with one.  Of course I also told them they needed scupper holes.  No dice.

-Allen

beg to differ. have seen the canoes, too. and these definitely were not NCs, but small plastic boats. actually, here it looks like this; http://www.flyfishwithdon.com/boat.htm

almost bought an NC.. but decided it was too heavy and too costly for what i wanted. a yak fit much better into my ideas..



INSAYN

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Those were NuCanoe's.  No scupper holes.  When they first came out I told them they should consider an oar kit.  A couple years later, they came out with one.  Of course I also told them they needed scupper holes.  No dice.

-Allen

beg to differ. have seen the canoes, too. and these definitely were not NCs, but small plastic boats. actually, here it looks like this; http://www.flyfishwithdon.com/boat.htm

almost bought an NC.. but decided it was too heavy and too costly for what i wanted. a yak fit much better into my ideas..



A Dingy!  ;D
 

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Maybe I'll secure an old pontoon oar frame to my yak by using the existing scupper holes.  I'll have to go to a secret place on the lake so no one will see me...like the time I lashed the 32cc leaf blower to my yak...awesome


INSAYN

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Better sealing Rod Pod with smaller center hatch built in.

More options for rod holders along the sides, similar to Malibu kayaks.

Flat deck stern with a 6" hatch for access behind the tank well.

And before NANOOK can say it..... a front bulk head.  ;D


Y? as in, why is a bulkhead needed? that would take away from below deck storage
 honestly, i'd opt for hatches that sealed really well, and a true skeg or hull drag plate at teh rear...

I'm thinking of my T13 as a reference here, but I could easily stuff the same amount of junk in mine from the front with a bulkhead just under the sonar shield area.  I don't pull anything from the front area via the middle of the kayak now, nor do I pull anything outta the center via the front hatch.  So, I'm thinking a bulkhead in the front would effectively keep my kayak afloat if I were to get swamped when my center hatch might be open.
 

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which is why i push for hatches that seal better than the stock OK ones.

dunno, craig, i usually stuff at least 2 fully assembled rods into my rod pod even tho i only use one at a time. on my T15, they still manage to get up even to the back end of the front hatch. i'd like the interior ribbing to help stop scupper hole cracks and to stiffen the whole boat up some more and make it easier to use the edging method of turning..

eliminate that pseudo skeg/keel that runs down the middle rear , round and flatten the hull like Spot says, add in a true skeg like i suggested, maybe a stiffer transom with a built in trolling motor adapter.

given what i've been suggesting, i think a SOT version of the Liquid Logic Remix would be perfect... but we've been given an opportunity here to help design a whole new yak... which also has me wondering why we'd also seen suggestions re inventing the fishing pram??


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I would think that we need to break it down to a few different styles to play with, as I don't think we could capitalize on all the ideas, yet fish all the places we have out here on one new yak design. 

Say maybe:

1.) Ocean going vessel that's also surf zone stable.

2.) River drifter that could double as a play boat in most waters.

3.) Other?






 

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I have only the single large hatch on my emotion, no water gets into the hull. 
I too need back support...please!
I would like the wider boat, mine is 32 inches.

I think yaks that have a bit more aggressive upturned bow (Tarpon) cut through waves better and propel wave splash away from the cockpit. 

I have banged my hands against the sides of my boat a couple times and I wonder if 48" is too wide.  Who has the widest boat?

Sail kit?


   


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Those were NuCanoe's.  No scupper holes.  When they first came out I told them they should consider an oar kit.  A couple years later, they came out with one.  Of course I also told them they needed scupper holes.  No dice.

-Allen

beg to differ. have seen the canoes, too. and these definitely were not NCs, but small plastic boats. actually, here it looks like this; http://www.flyfishwithdon.com/boat.htm

almost bought an NC.. but decided it was too heavy and too costly for what i wanted. a yak fit much better into my ideas..



Ah yes, I remember them carry those rowboats back then.

-Allen


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I would think that we need to break it down to a few different styles to play with, as I don't think we could capitalize on all the ideas, yet fish all the places we have out here on one new yak design. 

Say maybe:

1.) Ocean going vessel that's also surf zone stable.

2.) River drifter that could double as a play boat in most waters.

3.) Other?


"Other" would be an improvement of your typical SOT design, if such a thing exists!!!

-Allen


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How about a smooth hull with a retractable skeg?
Water PROOF hatches
A reciever for a standard transducer
A hull that doesn't oilcan in the sun
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I have banged my hands against the sides of my boat a couple times and I wonder if 48" is too wide.  Who has the widest boat?

Hobie Pro Angler, 38".
NuCanoe, 42".

My proposal for a 48" boat is for a row/driftboat only.  I can't see paddling it kayak style.

-Allen


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WR...... why a trolling motor?   we would loose the good day at paddleing/peddling and the exercise if we put a motor on our yak.. i would want a

 little higher and more padded seat.

and no one mentioned colors.. BRIGHT COLORS... like Neon Green, and Orange, Maybe a really Hot Pink and about a 4" reflective pin stripe down the center of the sides.
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picture this in your minds eye
A clear hull, shaped like the RTM Disco except a smooth and flat stern for the retractable skegs.
A OK rodpod with WS style hatches.
The WS seat system with Native foot wells/pegs.
Sections of the deck should function as solar panels to power electronics and lights.
Night vision friendly LEDs built into the clear hull for night ops.
To keep the deck clean, a low profile dash board for sonar/gps. They would be installed below deck with only the screen showing topside.
surround sound could be fun but a bit over the top.
It would also be nice if the electronics could be controlled from a key pad built into the paddles shaft.

 


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I like the Disco's look, stretch it out and add a large hatch.  The fading issue with color is a bummer, maybe a shark hide or spray on bedliner material (topside)? I dunno, just thinking out loud.
-Scott


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Those were NuCanoe's.  No scupper holes.  When they first came out I told them they should consider an oar kit.  A couple years later, they came out with one.  Of course I also told them they needed scupper holes.  No dice.

-Allen


I owned a New Canoe prior to purchasing the Revo. Switched for three main reasons, no scuppers, no hatches, and way tooooooo heavy and difficult to load on top of the Rav4 by myself. Nice boat otherwise. holt
beg to differ. have seen the canoes, too. and these definitely were not NCs, but small plastic boats. actually, here it looks like this; http://www.flyfishwithdon.com/boat.htm

almost bought an NC.. but decided it was too heavy and too costly for what i wanted. a yak fit much better into my ideas..



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