Reg change

I don't think I am gona like the new reg change for the EAST end of area 4 to take place in May. No rock fish to be kept except blacks and blues with a limit of 6 fish.

F.C. (Matt),

I feel your pain, man.  It's really disheartening to watch, but that's the common theme all OVER the Pacific N.W.  Check out what changes have recently been made for the Port Hardy areas on the far north end of Vancouver Island.  NO rockfish, NO lingcods, ONE halibut a day, ONE hook on one line no matter what species you're fishing for.

I haven't seen ANYwhere that rockfish regulations have EVER been loosened.  Maybe in California?  Anybody know?  Throw me a bone if you have one.  I need a pinch of hope.

Fishin-T (Tom)

hate to rain on your parade, but from the looks of things its going to get worse.
one way to fight back is to get involved in the many "fish politics " groups we have going here.  might be too late for cali, seems things are pretty much sewn up there. still doesnt mean anyone cant get involved in the fights in washjngton and orego , tho

I haven't seen ANYwhere that rockfish regulations have EVER been loosened.  Maybe in California?  Anybody know?  Throw me a bone if you have one.  I need a pinch of hope.

Not sure ... but didn't Oregon just bump back up to 6?

Also, in CA, we had a year where they reduced the lingcod limit to 1 greater than 30".  Now it's back to 2 over 24".

-Allen

Oregon bumped the rockfish limit from 6 up to 7 last year and that is where it sits for 2010. Is this a little glint for hope? I haven't been fishing in Oregon very long so I really don't know. Can we get a OR nate' to chime in? I hope that this is a sign of a comeback for them in the area.

Plenty of fish in Mukkaw Bay unless your afraid of a little surf and white sharks..
It's much safer to stay near your computer and whine.......   
Floatin Cowboys when you catch anything in PA Harbor it weighs more cause it's full of heavy metals and hull paint... You feedin that to your kids?  Ouch!!!
Pull off 112 and catch what you want past shipwreck point..  all you need is a Stealth Yak  LOL
 

Polepole, Yakkinitup,

Hey, thanks for the input you two.  That's just the kind of stuff I needed to hear/see.  Those two blips on the radar might turn out to be an anomaly but it's sure as heck a glimmer for at least now.

I'm also hearing rumors that the halibuts are starting to do better in the Wa. areas.  Anybody have any input on that?  Maybe B.Steves?  And has anybody got any feedback on how things are going with the rockfish regs (and by proxy, the populations) down in Ca.?  I just want/need to see ONE Pacific coast fish situation where things are UNdeniably getting better.

Fishin-T

Political correctness does not guide my life..Freedom of speech does...

Unfortunately freedom of speech does not completely apply here.  You are not allowed personal attacks on people or derogatory statements about them.  Rather than edit out the negative parts of your post, I deleted the whole thing.  Try again ....

-Allen

Polepole, Yakkinitup,

Hey, thanks for the input you two.  That's just the kind of stuff I needed to hear/see.  Those two blips on the radar might turn out to be an anomaly but it's sure as heck a glimmer for at least now.

I'm also hearing rumors that the halibuts are starting to do better in the Wa. areas.  Anybody have any input on that?  Maybe B.Steves?  And has anybody got any feedback on how things are going with the rockfish regs (and by proxy, the populations) down in Ca.?  I just want/need to see ONE Pacific coast fish situation where things are UNdeniably getting better.

Fishin-T

Correct me if I'm wrong but aren't ling populations "in general" improving/doing better off the Oregon Coast, it seems that way compared past decades.  The Oregon rockfish limit was raised in the last couple years due to the heathy increase in Black Rock populations.

This article discusses the Worm/Hilborn article in Science Mag in 2009 ... http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/80beats/2009/07/31/the-global-collapse-of-fisheries-can-be-averted-researchers-say/

The five ecosystems in which fishing rates have dropped to at least a healthy level called maximum sustainable yield include oceans surrounding New Zealand; northwestern Australia; Iceland; the California current system stretching from Baja California to Canada; and western Canada and Alaska, up to the Bering Strait. Maximum sustainable yield is the greatest amount of fish that can be harvested without depleting the population in the long term.

I attached the article if you're interested in all the details.

-Allen

Polepole,

In the interest of what I perceive to be fairness, I’ve taken the liberty of removing my own post as well.  I don’t know if it would be categorized as derogatory, but it was probably more personal than necessary and I apologize.

Yeah, I figured that “Dad” might "come down there and knock heads”, but the comment about whining did torque me.  I’ve been getting more and more sensitive to the rockfish situation as this years Washington and B.C. regulations (and what they indicate about the rockfish populations) have started to show up on the internet.  A post that another saw as “whining” and a lack of personal fortitude, I saw as a mournful lament for a cherished group of fish species.  Hence, I took offense.

Fishin-T

Polepole,

Hey, thanks loads for those two articles.  Definitely positive feedback and yeah, that helps.

Fishin-T

Polepole, Yakkinitup,

Hey, thanks for the input you two.  That's just the kind of stuff I needed to hear/see.  Those two blips on the radar might turn out to be an anomaly but it's sure as heck a glimmer for at least now.

I'm also hearing rumors that the halibuts are starting to do better in the Wa. areas.  Anybody have any input on that?  Maybe B.Steves?  And has anybody got any feedback on how things are going with the rockfish regs (and by proxy, the populations) down in Ca.?  I just want/need to see ONE Pacific coast fish situation where things are UNdeniably getting better.

Fishin-T

http://www.iphc.washington.edu/halcom/research/research.htm

Polepole,

In the interest of what I perceive to be fairness, I’ve taken the liberty of removing my own post as well.  I don’t know if it would be categorized as derogatory, but it was probably more personal than necessary and I apologize.

Yeah, I figured that “Dad” might "come down there and knock heads”, but the comment about whining did torque me.  I’ve been getting more and more sensitive to the rockfish situation as this years Washington and B.C. regulations (and what they indicate about the rockfish populations) have started to show up on the internet.  A post that another saw as “whining” and a lack of personal fortitude, I saw as a mournful lament for a cherished group of fish species.  Hence, I took offense.

Fishin-T

Hope I still have my wits about me at 97.