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Topic: Sea Run Cutties  (Read 7484 times)

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Cutthroat Chris

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Where, when and with what do you target those sea run cutties? I've got a 5wt and a 9wt, I'm assuming I need something in between or will the 5wt due? I don't know whether to go out in the bay or coastal river. Any advice is much appreciated.  :)
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Pelagic

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Where, when and with what do you target those sea run cutties? I've got a 5wt and a 9wt, I'm assuming I need something in between or will the 5wt due? I don't know whether to go out in the bay or coastal river. Any advice is much appreciated.  :)

5wt is perfect IMO, thats what I use. Out of the yak: I target them in upper sections of tidewater rivers and a little above when the blackberries are ripe at the coast (sometimes its earlier, sometimes later).  As for flies I have found they are not overly particular and like big, ugly, flashy offerings with lots of movement, both under and on the surface. I paddle up tidewater rivers (smaller rivers are my favs)  until I can't paddle up any more (water gets to shallow or swift) then I fish the holes a little above and below this general area.  Searuns tend to hold in these last deep holes before the river shallows and speeds up. Make sure to check the regs as retention can be prohibited or limited depending on location.


ConeHeadMuddler

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I echo what pelagic paddler said. Very good synopsis! That's what I do up here in WA.
 
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Pelagic

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Yep.. thats generally the drill here on the Oregon coast.  Late summer and early fall can be a blast in upper tide water.  The early mornings and evenings of those last hot summer days when the nights start cooling off can be awesome.  The yaks work great  as you can slip up into the holes during low water without much trouble.  Most if not all spots worth a darn have no public bank access anyway.   


Cutthroat Chris

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Awesome, thanks for all the info. I look forward to catching some very soon. I went up to a secret lake with a friend in the Mary's Peak area of Corvallis and caught some nice cutties there. Biggest one was only 13-14" but they fight hard! I didn't bring my fly rod though because there wasn't much room in the truck. Really regret that now. A light rain every now and then really brought the bite on and the bugs out. There's only one camping spot on the lake and we had it all to ourselves. It was a really good time.
Chris


Cutthroat Chris

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The lake actually doesn't have a name, it's really a small valley that had a small coastal stream running through it and the beavers plugged it up which filled the valley. Unfortunately, the people that live near there hate beavers and are trapping them all. Our little secret lake is slowly disappearing. >:( I've accidentally fallen in the mud before and I went down to my waist, had to do the Bear Grylls belly crawl out. If the lake drains much more we won't be able to get our yaks in the water without going through the mud. Hopefully the last remaining beavers will plug it back up.

I was catching these cutties the same way, kinda. Part of the time I fished from shore and I would always hook them just past the lilly pads and just before the drop off, if that makes any sense. Out in the yak I didn't catch one in deep water, they were all in the warmer shallow water.

I haven't learned to tie flies yet only because it's so expensive to get all the starting materials, vise and other necessary hardware. I've been buying my flies from a guy up in Lyons who gives me a great deal and quality flies. Can you guess where the flies are tied that are sold in the fly shop at the Metolius? I thought they would be hand tied by somebody around the area because people are such sticklers about their flies, especially there. I asked the guy where they were made and he said somewhere in Asia! I was like, WOW!

I've started to use more nymphs and streamers more than anything, I used to use only dry flies when I first started because I didn't know any different. Nymphs catch big fish! When fishing dries in my local creek I only catch small fish. I really need to gets some Chironomids for the lakes, I have a video about them and they also catch big fish. Just a little wiggle here and there and bendo! Great stuff!

Chris


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 I agree that you don't really save a lot of money tieing your own flies. I can because I acquired my supplies at going out of business sales, garage sales, estate sales, etc. What you do get by tieing is exactly the fly that you want. I still buy flies when I go to a new area or one that I haven't been to in a while. I chat up the fly shop owner and ask for his picks for the best 5 flies for his area, and buy 3 of each. Spending a few bucks on flies has got me a lot of very good tips on where to and how to fish an area. When I buy flies I always put a dab of head cement on the whip finish to make sure that the fly stays together.
 I normally tie in the winter when the weather is too crappy to go fishing. I always tie 12 ea of a pattern and size. I always figure that the first two that I tie will be junk so I usually end up with 10 good ones. I try not to tie when I could/should be fishing.
 For cutties I like reverse spiders, soft hackles, and small bait fish patterns. Cutties normally aren't too picky about what they'll hit, but some days they can be selective. Usually a color change or a size change is all that's needed to turn on the bite.


Cutthroat Chris

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All great advice and I thank you very much. I can't wait!
Chris


Fishboy

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Wow, this thread has me all juiced for cutts. Now to tie up some orange-bodied Reverse Spiders ....


Fishboy

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Conehead, you're killing me. That photo is outstanding. Have to dig up my old Les Johnson book and get out the vise.


Stackofhay

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This is a great site for Oregon Fly Fishing.  If you scroll down you will see there is currently a lot of info on Sea Run cutties and even some fly tying example video(s).
http://oregonflyfishingblog.com/

I recently paddled up Salmon River (near Lincoln City) in a tandem with my daughter and caugt a few smaller cut throats just casting a gold Kastmaster lure in areas with lots of cover & brush.  Great fun as daughter is the motor and I just fish.  ;D  (Floating back to the dock in the Salmon River estuary is great fun, nearly always see some harbor seals and good bird life.)  Assume Fly would be productive too...possibly more so. 


Fishboy

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Must .. fish ... cutts ....


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Picked up some Tiemco 200R no. 6 and 8 hooks today, and some flashy shrimp-colored chenille. Reversed spiders on the way, baby  ...


EricOnTheFly

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I have been fishing the bays with a 6wt rod and deep water express line (6inch per sec roughly) Casting toward shore and swing/strip back to me as the fly drops deeper and deeper. Been doing pretty well too.


 

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