hobie mirage

Nanook I gotta ask... For such an adamant supporter and user of SINKs, why/how do you have a Ocean Kayak Pro Staff in your signature?

At least SOT's don't require men to wear skirts  

Well, I'm not an inuit, but halibut are on my agenda next. I've had to learn on my own rather than have 10,000 years of history to teach me. If I were fishing the arctic ice sheet, I would not be in a SOT. I'd want to be protected from the elements, and have a boat that could handle rough water and dozens of miles.

But hey that's just me. Why don't you go to the arctic and test your hobie? I'll keep an eye out for the obit.

If you were fishing the arctic ice sheet, you would not want to be in a SOT because you will be protected from what elements?  Water all around ya, and colder than a meat locker no matter what your in.  You may also want to consider having longer range ability than just "dozens of miles".  This is where technology would be your friend and common sense would probably direct you to park the kayak and take a big diesel boat. 

Don't have a Hobie yet, but it's on my radar. And I'll stick to SOT for now as I want the versitility.

NANOOK, plz don't get me wrong here I honestly fully respect your expertise in proper kayak paddling and further ability to handle the sea in a SINK.  You are by far the most knowledgable and experienced person here (that I know of) on this topic.  You would be my "go to" man if I ever decide to try a SINK.  At this point I am still at the lower end of the spectrum for both kayaking and fishing, but I'm am here.  I am also a gear head through and through, and love technological advances in recreational vehicles.  So, to clarify this trivial blurb that I am not sure exactly why I jumped into, I have to say this.....and this is my own personal view based on what I see and understand.  Allow me to make an analogy to the car world.

A sea kayak is probably the superior human powered craft for traveling vast distances in the sea for a multitude of reasons between SINKs and SOTs.  I see your fast yak as a specific use vehicle, much like a high end sports car.  I also see the average SOT seen here on NWKA to be more like pick up trucks.  Some are 4 bangers, some are V8 diesels.  A pickup can do more than one task in more than one environment in a better equiped way than the sports car.  I wouldn't take a sports car to get a load of firewood, tow a trailer, or play in the dirt with, but at the same time I would expect that the pick up would not make the best sports car.   Am I making any sense? 

A SINK and SOT with paddles are like a sports car and a pick up.  A SOT with a Mirage drive is like a pickup with a turbo diesel.  If ya play a game of tug of war between a SINK with a paddle, and a SOT with a Mirage, its gunna turn out much like the results of a tug between a sport car and a turbo diesel pickup. 

To go against the regularly scheduled BS I typically spew, when people ask me about Greenland style paddles, I usually tell them that it is a "nastalgia" or "asthetic" thing. I use the analogy that, people still hunt with bows and arrows even though we've developed rifles. All it takes is a look at history...the Civil War or the genocide of Native Americans to know which is more effective.

nah, I'd just clip him with my towe belt. it has a quick release at the waiste mount that floats, so if I needed, I could just ditch it. Still hands free though, but nice try!

J

Hope you're tow belt has a smooooooth drag system for when that beast of a fish decides to stop playing nice and run back down to the bottom!  

Nanook I gotta ask... For such an adamant supporter and user of SINKs, why/how do you have a Ocean Kayak Pro Staff in your signature?

At least SOT's don't require men to wear skirts  

I've struggled with that for a long time. Technically I am "OK Pro Staff" which really just means I am a resource for information. I am not officially sponsored by OK, and I am infact trying to sell my Scupper Pro, at which time you will see the OK logo disappear from my profile.....Hopefully to be replaced by the Tiderace Sea Kayak logo.

When I started down this path, I didn't own a single boat. When I first started kayaking/kayak fishing I used an Ocean Kayak Frenzy, and it seemed reasonable to me to use a SOT for fishing. Then I got into sea kayaking, and got comfortable enough with those skills that I didn't feel I needed the SOT stability, and prefered the efficiency of the SIK.

The SIK was the challenge I needed with fishing at the time to keep me interested. If it's not new and a little scary, I tend to get bored. I'm still finding it enough of a challenge to keep me entertained....which is why I'm looking at halibut now....it's new and a little scary...should be entertaining!

J

nah, I'd just clip him with my towe belt. it has a quick release at the waiste mount that floats, so if I needed, I could just ditch it. Still hands free though, but nice try!

J

Hope you're tow belt has a smooooooth drag system for when that beast of a fish decides to stop playing nice and run back down to the bottom!  

It's going to be a sh*t tornadoe no matter how I go about it. This is what I spend my free time pondering. I'll work it out to a reasonable level of "risk" and "sanity"

I don't do mechanical advantage or drags....that's what makes it so dang fun. mono y mono baby.

nah, I'd just clip him with my towe belt. it has a quick release at the waiste mount that floats, so if I needed, I could just ditch it. Still hands free though, but nice try!

J

Hope you're tow belt has a smooooooth drag system for when that beast of a fish decides to stop playing nice and run back down to the bottom!  

Nah, he'll just be piloting a one man open cockpit submarine doing a reverse crash dive!!!!

I haven't figured that part out yet. trying to figure out how to fire off a 22 pistol without shooting myself in the hip at the same time.

Come on man, THAT's the time to man up! Inuits didn't use no .22!
You gotta cut the gills then reach in and pull the heart out.
Guns are gay.





(make sure your partner gets the video)

nah, I'd just clip him with my towe belt. it has a quick release at the waiste mount that floats, so if I needed, I could just ditch it. Still hands free though, but nice try!

J

Hope you're tow belt has a smooooooth drag system for when that beast of a fish decides to stop playing nice and run back down to the bottom!  

Nah, he'll just be piloting a one man open cockpit submarine doing a reverse crash dive!!!!

I have submarined a sea kayak a few times.....I think that as long as it's under 300lbs, I should be fine bouyancy wise. i may have to have several hundred feet of line though just incase!

I haven't figured that part out yet. trying to figure out how to fire off a 22 pistol without shooting myself in the hip at the same time.

Come on man, THAT's the time to man up! Inuits didn't use no .22!
You gotta cut the gills then reach in and pull the heart out.
Guns are gay.


(make sure your partner gets the video)

You're right. A harpoon on a large coil of rope seems like the proper solution. Seems like some body has already worked this out for me. Who am I to go against 10,000 years of proven technique. If they could do it, I can do it.

nah, I'd just clip him with my towe belt. it has a quick release at the waiste mount that floats, so if I needed, I could just ditch it. Still hands free though, but nice try!

J

Hope you're tow belt has a smooooooth drag system for when that beast of a fish decides to stop playing nice and run back down to the bottom!  

Nah, he'll just be piloting a one man open cockpit submarine doing a reverse crash dive!!!!

I have submarined a sea kayak a few times.....I think that as long as it's under 300lbs, I should be fine bouyancy wise. i may have to have several hundred feet of line though just incase!

which reminds me; just how long is this handline of yours??

The one I use now is 70ft 3mm climbing rope with 10-15ft of 40# mono leader.

I just had him make up a few 100ft ones for our "120ft depth restriction" might as well be able to go to 120, all though having 85ft keeps me out of trouble, and usually I fish 60ft so I don't bulge any eye balls.

I'm probably going to have to a longer one huh?

J

night guys, would love to stay and trade barbs but the meds have kicked in.

Yes. Yes you will.

Another thing you will have to consider is the fact that you are probably going to have to be using at least 8 oz. of weight to be fishing that deep, probably more. You'll need to try and stay as vertical as possible and the diameter of your hand line is going to be working against you in that regard.

Do you actually reel it up by hand over hand, or do you reel it up by using the spool it's on?  If you use the spool (or whatever you wish to call it), you could just go with 100lb braid, making it easier to get to depth.

I real it up hand over hand.