PCBs, Mercury and Worms Oh MY!

Looks like the tourney may end up  being catch and release.   Hopefully they open it on time and just close it early. 

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/bill_monroe/index.ssf/2010/12/bill_monroe_sturgeon_quota_wil.html
 

you couldn't pay me to keep and eat a sturgeon from the Willy any way. Was planning on CP&R myself.

pollution??? No F&R (fillet&release)??

Looks like the tourney may end up  being catch and release.   Hopefully they open it on time and just close it early. 

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/bill_monroe/index.ssf/2010/12/bill_monroe_sturgeon_quota_wil.html
 

you couldn't pay me to keep and eat a sturgeon from the Willy any way. Was planning on CP&R myself.

I look at it a lot like I do cigars.  Sure they are likely a little bad for me but one every once in a while probably won't kill me.  A guys gotta live a little, and missing out on a fine cigar or some well done smoked sturgeon on a rainy day out on the water is worth a little risk to me. 

I look at it a lot like I do cigars.  Sure they are likely a little bad for me but one every once in a while probably won't kill me.  A guys gotta live a little, and missing out on a fine cigar or some well done smoked sturgeon on a rainy day out on the water is worth a little risk to me.

Amen Brother!  What's life if you don't live a little?
 
-Spot-

you couldn't pay me to keep and eat a sturgeon from the Willy any way. Was planning on CP&R myself.

They are migratory. Why does it matter? You could catch one in the Willy that was born in the Frasier, or vice versa.


Now a bass, that's a different story.

Anybody know if willy dinos have been tested for pcb's, heavy metals, pesticides, etc? Seems like I recall an older post.....

Looks like the tourney may end up  being catch and release.   Hopefully they open it on time and just close it early. 

http://www.oregonlive.com/sports/oregonian/bill_monroe/index.ssf/2010/12/bill_monroe_sturgeon_quota_wil.html
 

you couldn't pay me to keep and eat a sturgeon from the Willy any way. Was planning on CP&R myself.

I look at it a lot like I do cigars.  Sure they are likely a little bad for me but one every once in a while probably won't kill me.  A guys gotta live a little, and missing out on a fine cigar or some well done smoked sturgeon on a rainy day out on the water is worth a little risk to me. 

I agree, but I'm in that dirty water so much, I figure I'm well on my way as it is. one dirty dino could tip the scales for me

really it's a mental thing for me. I tend to make myself feal sick thinking about it before I even eat it. I have a hard time keeping bottom fish because I usually find creep crawlies in/on them and it just won't work in my brain. one time having the parasites crawl out of the fillets while in the fridge closed the deal for me. plus I've become kind of a softy and just feel bad bonking most stuff, especially when it's lived longer than I have. depends on how hungry/broke I am though , and I'm sure the dirtiest dino is still way cleaner than mcdonalds etc., but I don't have to pull the worms out of a big mac, that's all taken care of before I get there....maybe.

Anybody know if willy dinos have been tested for pcb's, heavy metals, pesticides, etc? Seems like I recall an older post.....

seems like living a long time and bottom feeding would pretty much mean whatever is in the water is in them. but I'm just winging it, don't know for sure. I do know sturgeon is one of those fish they worn you about for PCB, dioxins, mercury, etc.

I'm sure the dirtiest dino is still way cleaner than mcdonalds etc., but I don't have to pull the worms out of a big mac, that's all taken care of before I get there....maybe.

Z

I work and play around all types of fish ... wild sturgeon is one I choose not to eat. If you really want to eat sturgeon get some of the farm raised stuff, better all they way around. I am sure there have high heavy metals and pollution but I still think it is better than the beef. I base my decision on the fact that the fish is just ok eating, farmed eats almost as good, they are very long lived and I would rather that one fish live for another 50 to 100 years than be eaten by me. 
Bottom fish parasites on the other hand don't bother me at all, but it great to see the expression on some ones face when you pull a two inch worm out of a halibut/lingcod/rockfish/blackcod fillet and watch it curl back up on the cutting board! 
If you you ever get to see heavy salmon Kudoa that will definitely curl your toes too!

Ooooog----guess I'll skip breakfast today

I was sniffing around and I was surprised to find (according) to some websites that Lingcod off the Pacific NW Coast falls into a similar category as the Sturgeon as far a toxicity warning.  I assume it has something to do with bio accumulation and Lingcod being the top of their food chain.  Mercury was the main culprit. My guess would be its even worse in the sound.

interesting. I wonder why lings in particular? I'm pretty sure multiple factors like lifespan, range of forage/migration, food source etc. play into how well they absorb the nasty stuff, but seems like longer living fish like cabs, sturgeon, etc. would be the worst. I know there's something about particular fatty acids and their ability to absorb different pollutants, but I'd be interested to learn more.

I work and play around all types of fish ... wild sturgeon is one I choose not to eat. If you really want to eat sturgeon get some of the farm raised stuff, better all they way around. I am sure there have high heavy metals and pollution but I still think it is better than the beef. I base my decision on the fact that the fish is just ok eating, farmed eats almost as good, they are very long lived and I would rather that one fish live for another 50 to 100 years than be eaten by me. 
Bottom fish parasites on the other hand don't bother me at all, but it great to see the expression on some ones face when you pull a two inch worm out of a halibut/lingcod/rockfish/blackcod fillet and watch it curl back up on the cutting board! 
If you you ever get to see heavy salmon Kudoa that will definitely curl your toes too!

Even with freezing, picking those round worm looking things takes it out of the sushi category for me.

That is also the reason that I don't consider bottom fish to be a suitable fish for raw consumption.
My BS sensor goes off with putting Ling in the same category as Sturgeon. There is a huge difference between a 5-10 year old fish and a 30-60 year old fish. The only thing I can think of is the fact that Ling are extremely voracious predators and can consume fairly large fish that may have had time to build up a higher level of contaminates.
On the other hand I do not think anyone can argue that a coastal ling would have anywhere near the contact with contaminates that a Columbia sturgeon would have, or even a Puget Sound Ling.
I am guessing that Cabs would not be as high since they mainly eat crabs and small crunchy things. I bet a large mature Yelloweye would be very high due to life span.
Again these are all just guess and I am not going off any hard data.