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jim-dawg

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Some golf handcart wheels, some pvc and about 25 minutes, what do you think?


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Certainly looks elegant enough.  Seems there will be a lot of pressure on the hull with the entire weight of the kayak and gear resting on the unions you have used as stoppers on the scupper holes.  Watch for damage in those two places.  PVC is pretty easy to flex in lengths such as those you have used here and could collapse.  Your design may work just fine for you; time, distance, weight, and the nastiest trails you use will tell.  Just get out there and give it a try.


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It seems to be a right of passage we've all taken part in.  Building at least one "first" kayak cart.  Some work, others not so much.. and in the end most folks end up forking over the cash for one of the purpose built carts like a Wheel eze etc.   Welcome to the club ;D


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Nice. PVC is easy to build with but also easy to break. And be careful with the scupper holes. I punched a hole in my new Hobie with my PVC cart (I had to repair it and now I have a  video on my Youtube Channel on how to fix scupper hole tears in a Hobie Outback). I also broke my PVC cart then reinforced it and modified it to follow some of the key designs of Hobie. But that's what I love about kayak fishing - it keeps you thinking.
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It seems to be a right of passage we've all taken part in.  Building at least one "first" kayak cart.  Some work, others not so much.. and in the end most folks end up forking over the cash for one of the purpose built carts like a Wheel eze etc.   Welcome to the club ;D

yep, what he said. ::)
I used to be a HUGE advocate of pvc scupper carts, until ronbo posted some pics of busted out scuppers

http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,380.msg2665.html#msg2665

That's the thread, but the pics are gone.  That said, I've been using scupper carts for a loooong time and carried some ridiculous loads with them.



Give your cart a try, but you might want to consider shorter legs and arms for a moment <sorry, bad mechanics humor>  :-\



http://www.northwestkayakanglers.com/index.php/topic,3062.msg29216.html#msg29216

Even though I've since gone over to the commercial cart camp, I've stopped at Home Despot on the way to a launch, bought a stick of pvc, some tee's, a couple of lawnmower wheels,  some all-thread and nuts, then built one on the spot if I'm desperate (George Rodgers park comes to mind ::)  )
But even I build it to strap-on now.

THAT said, save your pennies (dollars), bite the bullet, and buy a wheeleze beach cart with the big tires. It's worth every penny of its kings ransom. :angryfire:
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Actually the axle has an inner PVC smaller diameter tube and a 3/8 steel shaft for an axle.  This was a trade off deal.  Buy a cart and wait for more funds for the next gear item, or build a cart and buy a paddle (yak came without one), used immersion protection of some sort or maybe a VHF.  I figured I could skimp on the cart in lieu of the safety gear.


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My advice is to be careful loading and unloading the boat with the scupper cart. I am hyper careful now because I had to repair a virtually new boat. I have aluminum tubes and smaller diameter PVC within the tubes as well as a steel axle to reinforce the whole cart. And my wheels have grease fittings.

As I see it, do whatever it takes to get on the water safely.
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It seems to be a right of passage we've all taken part in.  Building at least one "first" kayak cart.  Some work, others not so much.. and in the end most folks end up forking over the cash for one of the purpose built carts like a Wheel eze etc.   Welcome to the club ;D

Man, you are soooo right.  ::)   Here's mine.  It was SOLID!! But as you can guess by the wheels, it cut through sand like a hot knife through butter.  Worked awesome for the street though.  It didn't break down at all so I had to try and tie it up on the back of the kayak where it loved to grab my lines!
                
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Rawk, is that one of those light/soup thermos combos?
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Rawk, is that one of those light/soup thermos combos?

 :D  Nah, that was the aft light that came with the yak.  It took about 4 AA's so it was a pretty decent light.  The only problem was reaching it while on the water. 
                
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The Pvc T's are what Bust apart , First cart I posted is already Dead,, Bad T's, New Reinforsed cart's holding together (so far) haven't used it much,,You might try the Thrift stores for Alam handicap walkers their very inexpencive and great for home made carts..


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I found that sched 40 PVC isn't up to par for my liking, so I built mine with sched 80 (the gray stuff).  Been rolling my Revo on it for what 1-2 years now (forgot when I got it)?

The difference is that I skipped the standard rubber inflatable utility cart wheels and ponied up for the 9.4" x 4.8" Wheeleez tires and a 3/4" solid aluminum axle.  The whole thing breaks down without any tools and all but the wheels themselves fit in an old camp chair bag. Thus EASILY storing it inside the kayak if I choose to.  Being made mostly of plastic, and aluminum there is nothing to rust, and not heavy at all to carry.

The two "T's" with the quick pins running through them were hogged out so that the scupper tubes can run all the way through them down to the axle "T's"creating a stronger area than just gluing pieces together to make the same set of joints.

With that, I strongly feel that these Wheeleez polyurethane wheels are by far the best thing available for use on all surfaces.  I've rolled these over many many paved, gravel, sand, grass and even mud surfaces.  They tend to do better than I do on some of said surfaces.  The polyurethane is extremely tough material, and I have yet to have to repair one.  They come with a patch kit which you just use a soldering iron or a hot spoon on some provided material to melt into place.  Running them low pressure (2-4 psi) is the key.

 

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The Pvc T's are what Bust apart , First cart I posted is already Dead,, Bad T's, New Reinforsed cart's holding together (so far) haven't used it much,,You might try the Thrift stores for Alam handicap walkers their very inexpencive and great for home made carts..

Did it break where I anticipated that it would have? 
 

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Scupper carts are an awesome way to crack your hull where you'll never see it (inside a scupper) and below the water line. I know of 3 people and heard 2nd hand of many people sinking their yaks because of them. The story plays out the same way. Buy a cheap cart or make one, break it in a very inopportune time (hopefully nothing bad happens) buy a real non-scupper kayak cart, tell all your friends how bad ass the WheelEEz beach cart... DAMHIK :laugh:
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The Pvc T's are what Bust apart , First cart I posted is already Dead,, Bad T's, New Reinforsed cart's holding together (so far) haven't used it much,,You might try the Thrift stores for Alam handicap walkers their very inexpencive and great for home made carts..

Did it break where I anticipated that it would have? 
Yea sort of..It was Like more of a Comic explosive reacation,like the the cart just said Hell no.. it was like you said but I was not even rolling so the kayak was still on the foam pads wheel elbows were fine as they were  filled with hot glue but them T's popped out.and No one was there to laugh at me. But a Video would have been funny ..