screwing stuff to the Yak

Do you guys sink threaded inserts in your Yak when attaching stuff? or the screw and glue method?

I'm trying to use lmost exclusively plastics and stainless steel on hardware. there must be stainless steel inserts ?. I'm on my way to Englund so i guess ill  find out.

I use nuts and bolts with the largest washers I can get away with for backing.  It doesn't always work out so well.  I was trying to add some Scotty mounts to the tankwell area of the yak and couldn't reach the backside to use nuts.  So I too am interested in other alternatives.

-Allen

Some people swear by rivets and I've seen them do a pretty good job. Personally, I use stainless steel bolts and locknuts. I'm lucky w/ the X-Factor because the hatches are monster in size and give you a ton of access to the interior of the yak. If you can get that access I think that nuts and bolts are THE way to go.

Oh, and don't forget to always put down a liberal dose of Marine Goop around all holes made in your hull before you bolt down your new accessory. A hurried install WILL leak.

Z

The guy at Englund Marine  said rivets.

Any type of insert would have to have a large flange and be installed from the inside, and it would have to be solid at the end of the threads so no water got through.i looked around at some websites but didnt see anything that would come close to working.

So I'm gonna use bolts and fender washers. Gonna have to finally break down and drill some holes..

hmmmm.. the marine sealer i definitely can understand, and oversize washers [ btw, they're called "fender" washers] too.. would squeeze nuts aka expansion nuts work? these actually create their own washer when you tighten them & you should be able to get those at an automotive parts store in the self help section.. or even at lowes or home despot..use a fender washer under the squeeze nut and run it down till it expands like it's s'posed to.. that should give ya plenty bearing surface..question: would a marine grade RTV work as a sealer also?
Rich

Maybe I'm lazy, but I tend to just use sheet metal screws and marine goop.  First I drill a very small tap holes, add some goop, and then screw the object on.   I then cover the screw heads again with more goop.  The good thing about this method is that there is no need for access to some odd place within the hull to add any nuts.  Of course, I've never attempted to use this method to attach anything that bears a ton of weight.  Mostly fish finders, flush mounted rod holders, etc..

Brian

Bsteves has got it. Coat and re-coat everything that goes through the hull w/ marine Goop. Accessory, flanges, bolts, etc..

Z

hmmmm.. the marine sealer i definitely can understand, and oversize washers [ btw, they're called "fender" washers] too.. would squeeze nuts aka expansion nuts work? these actually create their own washer when you tighten them & you should be able to get those at an automotive parts store in the self help section.. or even at lowes or home despot..use a fender washer under the squeeze nut and run it down till it expands like it's s'posed to.. that should give ya plenty bearing surface..question: would a marine grade RTV work as a sealer also?
Rich
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im sure an expansion nut would work fine, does that have a locking feature?. I don't think i'd put one over a lock washer. , a lock washer or a  nylon locknut and a fender washer would be plenty IMO.

i don't have much experience sealing stuff from saltwater, but i imagine most silicone sealers would work,.I'm just gonna use the crystal clear silicone sealer i got at wally's since i bought 8 tubes for a home improvement job and only used two

Hey all y'all (that's plural for y'all  )

I'm sure most of you know about fasteners and kayaks but here is a link to some good info posted on the GKF site:

http://atlantakayakfishing.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1237

I have another post somewhere about the relative strengths and weaknesses of rivets, screws, machine screws w/fender washers and locknuts, and well nuts.  I'll post it if I can find it. 

Zig Zag cleats are pretty neat for a quick release of you anchor rode (line).



The line does not have to be threaded around the cleat as much as is shown in the photo - half that much will hold it securely.

Those expanding rivets are just what I need.

-Allen

Those expanding rivets are just what I need.

-Allen

They are available on the CDE website on the Hardware page.

Also available from Hook1 Kayak fishing store. Great people and great way to support our kayak fishing bretherin! 

Z

http://www.kayakfishinggear.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=75

I agree that Mark and Karen are great people to deal with at Hook 1.  Just as an FYI, CaptDick Enterprises has been supplying kayak fishing accessories to the kayak fishing community for many years.  CDE also supports many kayak angling club's tournaments throughout the country with product donations.  Including your own AOTY.    Thank you for your time.   
Stan
www.CaptDick.net

CaptDick is supporting our AOTY this year with an anchor trolley and drift chute.  Hook1 has supported us in the past (our first NWKA derby) and probably would continue to do so if I asked (I haven't ... yet).  CaptDick is also sending me some of these fasteners to try and some extras as well.  I'll try them out and post the results when I have them to post.

It goes without saying, but I support those that support us.

-Allen

I got those rivets from Hook1.
 I have about 40 more of them and about the same # of pad-eyes.
 I'm no expert, but they have held everything I have attached to them quite well.
 How ever, I must caution you to use a GOOD rivet tool for these, as it is a long shank and good grip from tool is essential to a secure fastening. I had to remove a couple of the first ones I tried cuz I used a cheaper tool and they wobbled!!!!