Lets talk best current offshore fishing Kayak now

1st) Fishing beginner here. 2nd post. Never been much of a fisherman, but I've dreamed big dreams despite an impoverished (NO money) life in an earlier era:-)

2nd) Fairly skill sportsperson, including some whitewater kayaking to lower levels.

3rd) Have a 2nd place in Netarts, thinking offshore right there for bottom fishing, dropping a crab pot on the way out along with some Tillamook bay Ghost Holing for salmon.

Need the best setup for this. Price isn't an object, although I tried to buy a bigger house to fit a big offshore powerboat a bit ago, the wife resisted (big time) so space is still an issue:-). In a big way. Small 10 x 12 garage in our Netarts place. Most of that is taken up with a small 15' aluminum powerboat that isn't really up to getting into the ocean but is fine for the bay. We have a couple regular paddle bay kayaks, but are otherwise out of room in the garage (10 crab pots, etc etc:-).  Will be selling one or 2 Kayaks to make room if we need, a buddy has some 6 or so regular kayaks at his place 1/2 mile away we can borrow if we wish. Thinking Hobie Revo 13, the comfortable 2015 model. Kokanie dry suit. 10' Lamiglass rod, Shimano reel for bottom fishing and salmon. If this was you, what would YOU get if someone handed you a blank check and you didn't have to worry about money?  My wife is stirring this as well, she loves fishing but wants to avoid boats due to seasickness.

Oh, the kicker. My kid has turned into a rock climber/hiker/ fishing fanatic for trout. When he comes in from Idaho to visit and fish, I want to get on the salt with him and get wild and wholly. What would you do? Tandem? I don't want heavy - difficult to handle if its just me. Do I need 2 boats? A Hobie Revo 13 and a tandem?

Help....?

What do you want to do? Paddle or pedal?
The revo 13 is the best all around boat hobie makes. With that said I think the Revo 16 is the best offsore boat.
As for paddle boats I think it is hard to beat the Ocean Kayak Trident series. Either the 13 or 15.
Get two singles instead of a tandem.

Pedal for sure. No way I want to paddle and try to fish.

Pedal for sure. No way I want to paddle and try to fish.

Well then you have two choices .... Revo 13 or 16.
One is a little faster one is a little more compact. 

i would get a hobie 16 and a 13.

As Fungunnin says, the basic question is whether you want a paddle kayak or a pedal kayak.  Here's my two cents worth of advice: I have 31 years of whitewater kayaking experience, and I own both a 13' Ocean Kayak Trident and a 13' Hobie Revolution.  The Trident is an excellent kayak, but I only use it for spearfishing and for fishing in rivers which are too shallow for safe use of a Mirage Drive.  For fishing in lakes, deep rivers, and the ocean, I overwhelmingly prefer my Revolution.

You could get a 13' or 16' Revolution for yourself, and could get an Outback for your guest boat, because it's wider and more stable.  And who knows, after trying both you might decide that you prefer the Outback.  I love my Revolution, but there are plenty of very experienced kayak anglers who use an Outback.

Can't say I fish the open ocean but I do fish the saltwater. The open ocean to me implies traveling some distance and possible big fish often alone. For distance the revolution has a big edge I hear especially the 16. But for big fish and the additional stability while alone the outback has served me well.

I don't fish much more than 3 miles off shore. Typically a lot closer. The outback k is stable enough my ten year old son hasn't had any issues handling decent halibut and king salmon.

The Outback is a very popular kayak but personally I feel it is a poor choice for off shore where you want to cover distance or may run into heavy currents.

Pedal for sure. No way I want to paddle and try to fish.

Well then you have two choices .... Revo 13 or 16.
One is a little faster one is a little more compact.

I agree with Fungunnin.

The Outback is a very popular kayak but personally I feel it is a poor choice for off shore where you want to cover distance or may run into heavy currents.

....or something happens to the drive system and you have to paddle it.

 If I had to paddle a pedal kayak in difficult conditions over distance, it would be the Rev 16 for sure.

The Outback is a very popular kayak but personally I feel it is a poor choice for off shore where you want to cover distance or may run into heavy currents.

....or something happens to the drive system and you have to paddle it.

 If I had to paddle a pedal kayak in difficult conditions over distance, it would be the Rev 16 for sure.

hell, nothing even has to happen to drive system to make paddling the adventure/revo 16 an attractive option. I do it sometimes if my legs are tired and/or i want a change of pace. it's such a pleasure to paddle, and the damn thing's faster than my old tarpon 140 was.

I would like to get some comments on PA 12 or 14.  I understand it's a beast ( big and heavy) but also very stable.

I would like to get some comments on PA 12 or 14.  I understand it's a beast ( big and heavy) but also very stable.

They are big and heavy but also very stable .... hope you never have to paddle one. Not a good choice for off shore.

Revo 13 is my choice for the salt and the Columbia. I use the Outback for everything else.

Wobbler

Love my outback but agree it's not for paddling. Not even 100 yards. It's not ideal but I Always have two  drives with me. Either two kayaks or I carry a spare. In fact I just ordered a brand new GT drive so I will have three drives for two kayaks.

I have a hard enough time carrying 6 coho or a hundred pound halibut on my outback.  And going out alone I like the additional stability.

But as much as I love my outback it would be brutal to lose your drive three miles offshore.