Kayak Cart for Rough Terrain?

I have a Seattle Sports strap-on cart and just learned that I hate it for more reasons than it stinks to high Heaven!

I need to haul a kayak across 300-400 yards of rough terrain.  A narrow, rocky path through blackberry brambles leads to a steep sand slope, leads to grapefruit sized river rock, leads to mud and a small creek, and back to grapefruit sized rocks...

It would be for a Revo 13 and a Tarpon 100 if that matters.

Have suggestions for a cart that can hold together?

Would a scupper cart be asking too much of the hull on this "path"?

 

how "narrow" is narrow for the path?   This could be a limiting factor for available carts.

C-Tug......I love mine might get a little difficult on the rocks but the tires won't go flat and it breaks down to fit in the hull. 

After breaking the first two carts that came with our Hobies, he decided to make one out of galvanized pipe.  The first one he made was out of 1" pipe but it was a little heavy so he redesigned it using 1/2" pipe.  The cart floats because of the wheels and believe me, he drags his kayak over huge rocks and ledges and it stands up no problems.
We re-paint them about once a year and oil the wheels occasionally.

 

how "narrow" is narrow for the path?   This could be a limiting factor for available carts.

Maybe 32 inches.  Wide enough for the kayak and no wider.  You'd think I'd have mentioned that, but no.  Doh!

After breaking the first two carts that came with our Hobies, he decided to make one out of galvanized pipe.  The first one he made was out of 1" pipe but it was a little heavy so he redesigned it using 1/2" pipe.  The cart floats because of the wheels and believe me, he drags his kayak over huge rocks and ledges and it stands up no problems.
We re-paint them about once a year and oil the wheels occasionally.

Thank you, Julie - that looks like a tank.  You and Dannybay seeing any issues with the scuppers?  I hate my cart but I love my scuppers... 

C-Tug......I love mine might get a little difficult on the rocks but the tires won't go flat and it breaks down to fit in the hull.

I'll second the C-Tug for rough terrain.   The only qualm is I'm still working out a way to keep the strap that wraps over the top of the kayak from sliding on the Outback.   On the Big Tuna the paddle notch is a perfect place.

Nope- they fit exactly like the original hobie cart.  In fact, the spacer (black cart clamp) is from the original cart. Keeps the boat off the middle bar.

C-Tug......I love mine might get a little difficult on the rocks but the tires won't go flat and it breaks down to fit in the hull.

I'll second the C-Tug for rough terrain.   The only qualm is I'm still working out a way to keep the strap that wraps over the top of the kayak from sliding on the Outback.   On the Big Tuna the paddle notch is a perfect place.

Got that.  Sliding straps was the second weakest link on the POS Seattle Sports cart.  The C-Tug isn't out of the question now that someone is backing-up Mojo.   

Nope- they fit exactly like the original hobie cart.  In fact, the spacer (black cart clamp) is from the original cart. Keeps the boat off the middle bar.

Good to know, and thanks again!

If you don't mind spending, the regular Hobie "fat wheels" work great, even in sand,

Nope- they fit exactly like the original hobie cart.  In fact, the spacer (black cart clamp) is from the original cart. Keeps the boat off the middle bar.

Julie, what wheels are you folks using? 

Thanks

If you don't mind spending, the regular Hobie "fat wheels" work great, even in sand,

Thank you for that.  I've read that folks think the Hobie welds are weak and the carts fall apart too soon.  I don't know that, but it seems to be the downside to those carts.

Frame durability is certainly an important consideration due to the wrenching action going over the larger rocks but wider wheels will help to alleviate some of that.   The narrower wheels tend to drop down into the notches between rocks and jam or cause the cart to tip over.  Even though wider inflated tires may have a puncture risk,   they will help to absorb the uneven terrain shocks and "level" it out plus reduce the cart tippage.  I have a Wheeleez cart that has performed well for many miles of portages and boat movement without any frame damage.   I hauled around a fully loaded 18 1/2 kayak on the cart.   I used the tuff-tires because I wanted to avoid flats but given your description of the trail you are using, the low pressure balloon tires might be more effective.   They offer two sizes of carts, one that fits within the "narrow" size mentioned, the other about two inches wider.   The "Beach" kayak cart would probably be the better fit for a Hobie but whether it fits on the trail would be the question..   

I've beat the absolute shit out of my wheeleez cart over the last 5 years and it is still going strong.  An awesome product which is spendy but delivers.  Goes over everything.

Thanks for info on the Wheeleez carts.  They are without question expensive, but I'd guess one or two more rugged trips with the Tarpon would do darned near that much damage to it, and that cart will never touch the Hobie again.

Lots of good options so far.  Appreciate it.

 

Wheeleez for sure.  Big balloon tires with 4 lbs pressure they go over everything.  Make sure to get the full sized ones for your revo 13.  The minis wont work for what you want to do with them.