be cool

" Be careful what you wish for..." and for darn sure be careful what you say.

Because of my disabilities I now work at a different site for my employer.  You cannot enter without temperature testing and you must wear a mask at all times... no excuses. Even the truckers dropping off 53 footers and the Cintas guys changing out uniforms and other spoiled items get interviewed and tested. ( government owned, contactor operated facility).

Tuesday, we had the shuttle crew from the main site show up to drop and pick . One of them used to work for me, the other is his inseperable buddy. Twice as they were moving through the facility, they were stopped by employees and told they needed to mask up again. One was the site operations manager. 

Each time, they went " yeah yeah" and put the masks back on... they got caught a 3rd time as they were leaving, and the one who used to work for me ran his mouth. " we don't wear these damn face condoms down at the other site, we shouldn't have to wear them here either." Followed by, " why the hell are you buying into this liberal conspiracy bullshit? It's all a plot to ovethtrow the president because Pelosi didnt get her way the last time"....   I think the kicker may have been a " you can't make me" added in some place....

Literally they were thrown off the site and calls were made to the project director and corporate.  Neither works for us any more.  Collectively, the folks at our site are glad to be rid of a potential threat. Annnd... we all expect that there will be a wrongful dismissal lawsuit filed...

I know it absolutely sucks not being able to work. And I know it sucks having our civil liberties trashed, curtailed, and invalidated... been there, done this before, and worse...both in Texas,  and in other countries while there trying to help them get better, such as Somalia and Rwanda..( famine, Ebola, genocide). 

Everyday I go to work, I worry I'll be exposed or take the virus home to my wife and daughter.  Because of people like I outlined above. Today,  I learned my youngest niece is a 24 yro LPN helping in the effort in NYC as part of a group of 30 from small towns,and regions west of there... Hannah tells me its really bad, worse than any training could prepare her for.  More worry, I don't have a lot of contact with my late brothers kids.. I don't like the thought of losing another one.

 Right now, do the prudent thing. Stay the fuck home if you don't have an absolute need to be out.. wash your hands , clean the house. Sanitize your car interior. There's YouTube videos that show you how. Protect you and yours.

We can, and will get through this. Yes we'll lose some loved ones along the way. Some of us already  have. Save the angst, the anger and the grudges for the ballot boxes.

Eh. Fookin. Men!

some links for the "stay the fuck home crowd"... there is some critical thinking that needs to be done on whether or not youre just scared... or whether or not you really have empathy for the majority. the majority do not get hospitalized.... the majority do not even know they had it... a large number of americans are losing their jobs... losing their businesses... losing their opportunity at better health due to the system not allowing them to be served.

FISHING IS NOT RIDING THE SUBWAY IN NEW YORK CITY... in fact... in the PNW fishing is not even close to going to a gas station... for those that are worried you have the liberty to stay home and self quarantine longer if YOU choose. but to berate this point to death in light of the ever developing facts that this thing is no worse than a flu virus that we were not ready for is not really an intellectually honest stance.  Neighborhood cats can get it... its here... there is no "stopping it" we can only live with it. right now most of the country is not living life.

The curve is flattened... if you die from this thing you most likely (over 99%) have multiple co-morbidities which means you are unhealthy or immuno compromised. the "second wave" people are scared... its their right to be scared... but they are also irrational in regards to how long this "lock down" can be handled by the small businesses (which employ more americans than any other entity in our economy) and in regards to the lethality of the virus which was inadvertantly over blown in the beginning (which i would rather have an overblown response than an not serious one)... but the problem so far is that we are not adapting from that overly serious stance... and many people... including people in this thread are so scared that they are willing to sacrifice others with an ever extending lock down.... which... sure... lock yourself down, wash your hands, wear a mask if it makes you feel good, etc... just dont tread on your healthy, no-comorbidity, under the age of 75, hand washing, getting out of the house fellow citizens. this thing is at the point where in many ways we need more people to get exposed so that we can build up herd immunity... again... for the people thinking this thing is going away it is not... it will now be a part of our seasonal flu buffet.

also, conspiracy theorists are jackass's... the illuminati/political bent on this thing has to end at some point right?



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/21/health/coronavirus-antibodies-california.html?searchResultPosition=7

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/nyregion/coronavirus-antibodies-test-ny.html

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109867/coronavirus-death-rates-by-age-new-york-city/

Fortunately, our 'stable genius' President has discovered a cure for COVID-19 infections:
Do nothing
Blame anyone but himself
Hydroxychloroquine
Lysol injections

So there! No need for a national testing strategy. We'll have this thing whooped in no time.

Fortunately, our 'stable genius' President has discovered a cure for COVID-19 infections:
Do nothing
Blame anyone but himself
Hydroxychloroquine
Lysol injections

So there! No need for a national testing strategy. We'll have this thing whooped in no time.

Maybe you should just stay in your basement so everyone is safe from your stupidity

some links for the "stay the fuck home crowd"... there is some critical thinking that needs to be done on whether or not youre just scared... or whether or not you really have empathy for the majority. the majority do not get hospitalized.... the majority do not even know they had it... a large number of americans are losing their jobs... losing their businesses... losing their opportunity at better health due to the system not allowing them to be served.

FISHING IS NOT RIDING THE SUBWAY IN NEW YORK CITY... in fact... in the PNW fishing is not even close to going to a gas station... for those that are worried you have the liberty to stay home and self quarantine longer if YOU choose. but to berate this point to death in light of the ever developing facts that this thing is no worse than a flu virus that we were not ready for is not really an intellectually honest stance.  Neighborhood cats can get it... its here... there is no "stopping it" we can only live with it. right now most of the country is not living life.

The curve is flattened... if you die from this thing you most likely (over 99%) have multiple co-morbidities which means you are unhealthy or immuno compromised. the "second wave" people are scared... its their right to be scared... but they are also irrational in regards to how long this "lock down" can be handled by the small businesses (which employ more americans than any other entity in our economy) and in regards to the lethality of the virus which was inadvertantly over blown in the beginning (which i would rather have an overblown response than an not serious one)... but the problem so far is that we are not adapting from that overly serious stance... and many people... including people in this thread are so scared that they are willing to sacrifice others with an ever extending lock down.... which... sure... lock yourself down, wash your hands, wear a mask if it makes you feel good, etc... just dont tread on your healthy, no-comorbidity, under the age of 75, hand washing, getting out of the house fellow citizens. this thing is at the point where in many ways we need more people to get exposed so that we can build up herd immunity... again... for the people thinking this thing is going away it is not... it will now be a part of our seasonal flu buffet.

wow, you used the word "scared" several times.  I think a better word is 'patriotic'.  As in, people thinking beyond themselves, not being selfish, looking at our society as a whole and taking actions and/or making sacrifices for the better of us all. 

we are not minimizing trips off our property, keeping our fishing/exercise/recreating close to home, and wearing masks while at the grocery store because we are "scared" of catching it, we are 'attacking' the virus this way to minimize spreading it to others.  the more people that get the virus, especially if they are asymptomatic or are going to recover just fine, the more it gets spread around unknowingly to people that are at higher risk for complications and hospitalization.  and where that peaks and overwhelms medical support/equipment available, the result is excessive deaths due to rationing the facilities and equipment available. 

worth reminding people, COVID-19 is a SARS virus, that's why it is designated SARS-CoV-2, if you get the SARS lung inflammatory symptom, which interferes with blood-oxygen transfer across the alveoli wall, even if you are healthy and young, you almost always need medical intervention (ventilator) to survive.  check with the epidemiologists, it would be a really bad idea to rely on herd immunity to deal with a SARS pandemic.  I have also not seen any epidemiologists that suggest relaxing our "attack" on this virus too much just because 'the curve has flattened a bit'.  That sounds sort of like taking a coffee break during a big military ambush just because we have slowed the enemies advance.  we need time to improve the treatment protocol (and as we've seen recently, it needs to be through urgent but proper double blind studies) and we need an effective vaccine.  the vaccine is the long-term solution but likely to happen after we have seen a second surge of cases.   

I think being patriotic here is to protect our society as a whole and give our medical (and other essential workers) some respect and a bit of a breather by taking this over the top and down the other side of the peak before we ease up too much.  that also is what I am seeing the experts recommend.   


 

   

Fortunately, our 'stable genius' President has discovered a cure for COVID-19 infections:
Do nothing
Blame anyone but himself
Hydroxychloroquine
Lysol injections

So there! No need for a national testing strategy. We'll have this thing whooped in no time.

Maybe you should just stay in your basement so everyone is safe from your stupidity

Did you watch the nationally televised daily "briefing" where he said that?  I did.  HE is the one who ought to be locked away so he's not suggesting people do really stupid stuff to themselves.

HE is the one who ought to be locked away so he's not suggesting people do really stupid stuff to themselves.

If I didn't believe that every death is an unfathomable tragedy, I'd suggest that we allow him to continue these crazy suggestions in hopes that we'd raise the mean IQ of our electorate by a few points. Between fomenting these lockdown protests and touting unproven & downright lethal medical treatments, he's running the risk of wiping out his base.

Fortunately, our 'stable genius' President has discovered a cure for COVID-19 infections:
Do nothing
Blame anyone but himself
Hydroxychloroquine
Lysol injections

So there! No need for a national testing strategy. We'll have this thing whooped in no time.

Maybe you should just stay in your basement so everyone is safe from your stupidity

When you attack the person instead of the argument it reveals more about you than the person you're attacking.

some links for the "stay the fuck home crowd"... there is some critical thinking that needs to be done on whether or not youre just scared... or whether or not you really have empathy for the majority. the majority do not get hospitalized.... the majority do not even know they had it... a large number of americans are losing their jobs... losing their businesses... losing their opportunity at better health due to the system not allowing them to be served.

FISHING IS NOT RIDING THE SUBWAY IN NEW YORK CITY... in fact... in the PNW fishing is not even close to going to a gas station... for those that are worried you have the liberty to stay home and self quarantine longer if YOU choose. but to berate this point to death in light of the ever developing facts that this thing is no worse than a flu virus that we were not ready for is not really an intellectually honest stance.  Neighborhood cats can get it... its here... there is no "stopping it" we can only live with it. right now most of the country is not living life.

The curve is flattened... if you die from this thing you most likely (over 99%) have multiple co-morbidities which means you are unhealthy or immuno compromised. the "second wave" people are scared... its their right to be scared... but they are also irrational in regards to how long this "lock down" can be handled by the small businesses (which employ more americans than any other entity in our economy) and in regards to the lethality of the virus which was inadvertantly over blown in the beginning (which i would rather have an overblown response than an not serious one)... but the problem so far is that we are not adapting from that overly serious stance... and many people... including people in this thread are so scared that they are willing to sacrifice others with an ever extending lock down.... which... sure... lock yourself down, wash your hands, wear a mask if it makes you feel good, etc... just dont tread on your healthy, no-comorbidity, under the age of 75, hand washing, getting out of the house fellow citizens. this thing is at the point where in many ways we need more people to get exposed so that we can build up herd immunity... again... for the people thinking this thing is going away it is not... it will now be a part of our seasonal flu buffet.

wow, you used the word "scared" several times.  I think a better word is 'patriotic'.  As in, people thinking beyond themselves, not being selfish, looking at our society as a whole and taking actions and/or making sacrifices for the better of us all. 

we are not minimizing trips off our property, keeping our fishing/exercise/recreating close to home, and wearing masks while at the grocery store because we are "scared" of catching it, we are 'attacking' the virus this way to minimize spreading it to others.  the more people that get the virus, especially if they are asymptomatic or are going to recover just fine, the more it gets spread around unknowingly to people that are at higher risk for complications and hospitalization.  and where that peaks and overwhelms medical support/equipment available, the result is excessive deaths due to rationing the facilities and equipment available. 

worth reminding people, COVID-19 is a SARS virus, that's why it is designated SARS-CoV-2, if you get the SARS lung inflammatory symptom, which interferes with blood-oxygen transfer across the alveoli wall, even if you are healthy and young, you almost always need medical intervention (ventilator) to survive.  check with the epidemiologists, it would be a really bad idea to rely on herd immunity to deal with a SARS pandemic.  I have also not seen any epidemiologists that suggest relaxing our "attack" on this virus too much just because 'the curve has flattened a bit'.  That sounds sort of like taking a coffee break during a big military ambush just because we have slowed the enemies advance.  we need time to improve the treatment protocol (and as we've seen recently, it needs to be through urgent but proper double blind studies) and we need an effective vaccine.  the vaccine is the long-term solution but likely to happen after we have seen a second surge of cases.   

I think being patriotic here is to protect our society as a whole and give our medical (and other essential workers) some respect and a bit of a breather by taking this over the top and down the other side of the peak before we ease up too much.  that also is what I am seeing the experts recommend.   

Take it from someone who clearly knows what they are talking about!
Thanks for your input, Roger!

HE is the one who ought to be locked away so he's not suggesting people do really stupid stuff to themselves.

If I didn't believe that every death is an unfathomable tragedy, I'd suggest that we allow him to continue these crazy suggestions in hopes that we'd raise the mean IQ of our electorate by a few points. Between fomenting these lockdown protests and touting unproven & downright lethal medical treatments, he's running the risk of wiping out his base.

Yet the two knuckleheads that drank aquarium cleaner were donors to the democrat party, hmmmm.

Luckily, Americans are pretty strongly in agreement about Stay-at-Home measures.

Poll: More than 70 percent of Americans support coronavirus stay-at-home orders
https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/494028-poll-more-than-70-percent-of-americans-support-stay-at-home-orders

8 In 10 Americans Support COVID-19 Shutdown, Kaiser Health Poll Finds
https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/23/843175656/8-in-10-americans-support-covid-19-shutdown-kaiser-health-poll-finds

In an era of political polarization, Americans are united behind coronavirus stay-at-home orders, polling shows
https://www.businessinsider.com/americans-united-behind-coronavirus-stay-at-home-orders-polling-shows-2020-4

HE is the one who ought to be locked away so he's not suggesting people do really stupid stuff to themselves.

If I didn't believe that every death is an unfathomable tragedy, I'd suggest that we allow him to continue these crazy suggestions in hopes that we'd raise the mean IQ of our electorate by a few points. Between fomenting these lockdown protests and touting unproven & downright lethal medical treatments, he's running the risk of wiping out his base.

Yet the two knuckleheads that drank aquarium cleaner were donors to the democrat party, hmmmm.

Please provide a citation for this if it's true.  And also provide an explanation as to why party affiliation matters for this.  Stupidity knows no political boundaries.

... but to berate this point to death in light of the ever developing facts that this thing is no worse than a flu virus that we were not ready for is not really an intellectually honest stance.

There is a lot that is incorrect about your post, but I'll just call this out in particular. This is wrong. If it isn't, please provide a citation.