On board Cameras

Last night I splurged and bought a couple of cameras for my Kayak. I got an onboard camera thats about 4 inches long and 30mm diameter. Im going to have it recording me fish from the front of the kayak.(its waterproof-used for whitewater rafting) then at the sametime Im recording from my helmet cam. Sweet eh. All 100%waterproof. Ill share the footage after this seasons over. All together with your funny green money-lol  It was pretty reasonable-800$
Should be awesome to tape the whales and the big fish. Sportzshot.com has good ones. A guy in Utah named Sean.

I split this post off into it's own topic.  First time I've used that functionality on this board.  I sure am happy it didn't blow away your post.

Anyways ... details please.  What kind of cameras do you have?  What kind of mount do you plan on using on the front?  And what do you use for a headmount?

-Allen

Ok so in the front I got a flex mount on board camera. The flex mount allows you to move and keep steady the camera on whatever angle you want. Its like a 17 inch piece of wire hanger if you can imagine that.
The camera has 580 TVlines. high resolution for a small camera. The on board camera isnt on his website yet Its a bit more than the 299 pro package. I paid 375US for it. With it in the front I can focus it from a rang of focal points. 2.4mm-6mm to get the range of view I want. While its watching me and the surroundings Im wearing Pollarized ski goggles and a goggle mounted camera with a 6mm lense. So Im taping the fishing. The only bum thing is that I have to have either a connection change to one recorder when I want one affect or two recorders on board. But go big or go home I guess. There are pelican cases you can buy that have an area where your wires go through that keep the recording device dry. He sells them or youcan make your own.
I like goggles when on the water. I hate squinting when the hail starts or freezing rain or whatever.
But anyways it should be here end of next week. Remember where I am....Chances are even longer... But Im pretty pumped. On his website you can see examples of the quality of the camera under the video gallery. The quality for the 1mbps download looks pretty cool. But theres a dowload setting that we can have on here of 256or 258kbs. That would work eh? Im not the greatest at editing video but when I figure out a fast webstream I will post it.
www.spotzshot.com I think. If you look that up and put headcam..search it should find it
 

WW,  I work for a company that designs semiconductor chips for video application.

Please be careful with the 580 lines claim.  I don't think it buys you anything because the transport mechanism for NTSC only allows 480 lines.  If you had a PAL system (common in Europe) then 580 helps because PAL has 576 lines.  If you still can, I'd talk to the store about this and ask them about it.  It could save you some money.

If I ever get around to updating the forum software, the latest has the ability to post video just like you post jpegs.

Any specific recorders you are using?

-Allen

Im not quite following. Are you saying that the quality of the camera he is selling isnt what he claims? Or does my recorder(Sony 60gbHD) have an affect on the quality at all? Whats the PAL thing? NTSC? Is that the device that sends the signal to my video recorder?

NTSC defines the transport and display standard for TVs in the US (and Canada).  PAL is an alternate standard that is common in Europe.  NTSC displays 60 interlaced field per second with a resolution of 720x480.  PAL displays 50 interlaced fields per second at a resolution of 720x576.  They are not compatible with each other.

The wire that connects your point of view camera to the recorder will most likely be NTSC since that is the TV standard is this part of the world.  So even if the sensor captures at 580 lines, it still needs to be downsampled to 480 in order to be "transported" across the wire.

-Allen

Is there a way to have a good cable that doesnt stop the proper feed of resloution? So basically I bout a camera that was 100$ more than the one that does the same thing? Bastard....lol
As long as the quality is good enough for some detail and the sound is cool. I'll be happy. But its pretty screwed how theres a 580 and a 480 sold for dif prices and they do the same thing. Criminal....Hes probably a polygamist too....Utah...

It is not a cable thing.

Depending on your recorder you may be able to record PAL.  If so, you can put the POV camera in PAL mode and record in PAL mode natively.  However, if you ever wanted to display on an NTSC TV, you'd have to convert the image, or the devices you use to display need to be able to covert the image.  It's actually not so bad these days ... for instance, if you burn a PAL DVD, most DVD players can handle the conversion the NTSC for display to your NTSC TV.

-Allen

Well Im not sure about my handycam...I'll check out the manual at home. But then I would get maximum tv lineseh? Im planning on putting it on my laptop and editting the footage. Then burning a dvd after I have what I want for footage together. My computer will recognize this PAL mode eh?

I guess it depends on your recorder and the video type it produces and the mechanism to transfer to the PC, but it's probably doable.  What's the model number on your Sony 60 Gb?  I'll take a peak.

-Allen

I looked at it online but couldnt figure it out. Its actually 30 gb HDD.
Its Sony DCR-SR100 30GB HDD
I thought it had more memory but I guess not. Let me know cause I couldnt figure it out.
It has different memory and inputs and outputs and blahablah....couldnt figure it out

Looks to me like the DCR-SR100 is the NTSC version of the camcorder and the DCR-SR100E is the PAL version.

So the version you have is NOT PAL capable.

-Allen

So even though I have a camera that is capable of 580 lines all I get is 480 lines. Can I make a webstream look like the ones on his website 1mbps?

Getting good video at 1 mbs or less has less to do with the capture device as it does with your video authoring software.

-Allen

Cant you just use the Video program that comes with Microstoft....I forget the name...or what about sonys CD they give you with the camera?