Lamiglas rod squad forum

I think you've brought up a good point B. When we refer to salmon fishing in the ocean, bays, sound, and large rivers we're really combining a large scope of fishing styles. From downrigger trolling to weighted/diver trolling to backtrolling to mooching to jigging each which have pretty different characteristics which they need. I think moderate action tip could cover most of the bases. It would do a good job of downrigger, mooching, trolling and jigging styles. You'd need more of a fast action tip for backtrolling and I think a rod that performs for the former would just plain dog trying to backtroll. If there is going to be a kayak fishing salmon rod there should at least be 2 versions so that all the bases could be covered.

The rod should easily stow in my hatch.

Yep, 2 piece for sure.

Having a leash attachment ring opposite the reel seat is a great kayak feature

Yeah it seems like the optimum spot. It just has to be put forward just enough, so that it doesn't interfere with rod resting nicely in the rod holder.

If it can float with a reel attached, that would be a plus.  The Okuma kayak rods do this, but they are a bit bulky.

Totally agree. I do think that a hypalon grip is the way to go though. I think it'll float better and stand up to the unique abuses we put them through, like having them sit in a rod holder filled with saltwater and sand.

Z

If you leash it, why does it need to float?  Or if it floats, why do you need to leash it?

-Allen

If you leash it, why does it need to float?  Or if it floats, why do you need to leash it?

-Allen

Because back up (second option) is always a good thing.

Z

Not all fast action tips are equal.  The fast action they have on the current Lami kayak series is more like "SoCal fast action", super fast and super stiff.  The fast action on HSR's sure feels moderate to me, although it is faster than mooching rods.

-Allen

If you leash it, why does it need to float?  Or if it floats, why do you need to leash it?

-Allen

Because back up (second option) is always a good thing.

Z

I thought the leash (or the floating ability) was the backup?  "Don't drop it" is the first line of defense.   

-Allen

If you leash it, why does it need to float?  Or if it floats, why do you need to leash it?

-Allen

You mean you don't wear a belt with your suspenders?

Lami hit the ball out of the park with the 803. As long as the yak rod mirrors that action, I'll be happy! It fishes herring great and is a killer kwikfish rod, too.

I've been very happy with the graphite handles on some of my Lamiglas rods and wouldn't mind seeing them here. On a shorter rod with a soft tip, it might be an easy way to strengthen the butt section without having to run a weird taper.

My only other requirement is it has to look good with a Tekota or International 965 seated.

You'd need more of a fast action tip for backtrolling and I think a rod that performs for the former would just plain dog trying to backtroll. If there is going to be a kayak fishing salmon rod there should at least be 2 versions so that all the bases could be covered.

Zee,

I'm not too familar with back trolling but it sounds like you want more sensitivity.  All of the current Lamiglas kayak rods have a nice fast action already.  Would one of these suite your needs for backtrolling?  Or do you want a longer (>7'6") rod for this.  Just wondering if they need to make a special kayak salmon backtrolling rod?   Oh wait.. this is Lamiglas, of course they do.

Brian

You'd need more of a fast action tip for backtrolling and I think a rod that performs for the former would just plain dog trying to backtroll. If there is going to be a kayak fishing salmon rod there should at least be 2 versions so that all the bases could be covered.

Zee,

I'm not too familar with back trolling but it sounds like you want more sensitivity.  All of the current Lamiglas kayak rods have a nice fast action already.  Would one of these suite your needs for backtrolling?  Or do you want a longer (>7'6") rod for this.  Just wondering if they need to make a special kayak salmon backtrolling rod?   Oh wait.. this is Lamiglas, of course they do.

Brian

I bet Zee's definition of a faster action and yours are pretty different. The 8' one-piece rods Lamiglas makes are all excellent for pulling plugs. You can really see the plugs working.

I thought the leash (or the floating ability) was the backup?  "Don't drop it" is the first line of defense.   

-Allen

True. But if that rod is connected to a 40# Chinook that rod won't be around if it's not leashed. Also sometimes people forget their leash... 

Zee,
I'm not too familar with back trolling but it sounds like you want more sensitivity.  All of the current Lamiglas kayak rods have a nice fast action already.  Would one of these suite your needs for backtrolling?  Or do you want a longer (>7'6") rod for this.  Just wondering if they need to make a special kayak salmon backtrolling rod?   Oh wait.. this is Lamiglas, of course they do.

Brian

Something that could handle a kwikfish or HotShot would be key. You need to have that nice springy tip that let's the lure just do it's magic. Having a moderate tip will slow down the action a lot. And yeah, most backtrolling rods would fit the bill already IMO. Just a leash point and floaty grip would do it fine.

Z

True. But if that rod is connected to a 40# Chinook that rod won't be around if it's not leashed. Also sometimes people forget their leash... 

If I ever (a) had a rod that floats and (b) caught a 40 lb Chinook on it, I'd purposely drop the rod and chase the salmon around like them boys from Jaws.

True. But if that rod is connected to a 40# Chinook that rod won't be around if it's not leashed. Also sometimes people forget their leash... 

If I ever (a) had a rod that floats and (b) caught a 40 lb Chinook on it, I'd purposely drop the rod and chase the salmon around like them boys from Jaws.

Now that's funny!!!

-Allen

Also sometimes people forget their leash... 

You know I wouldn't mind having is a leash that has a more robust connecting point to the rod. Like a screw-in attachment or something. Not really because I think it's gonna get yanked off by the fish but more because if you're able to take it off easily then it's just one more thing to forget. If it were a good leash and stuck to the rod (maybe a few different attachment points) I think it would be more kayak friendly.

Dang it Pole, gimme John's email, I could talk for hours about this.

Z

You know I wouldn't mind having is a leash that has a more robust connecting point to the rod. Like a screw-in attachment or something. Not really because I think it's gonna get yanked off by the fish but more because if you're able to take it off easily then it's just one more thing to forget. If it were a good leash and stuck to the rod (maybe a few different attachment points) I think it would be more kayak friendly.

Hmmm ... yet another good topic.  To leash or not to leash your rods.  Or, when do you leash?  I hardly ever leash rods.  Only in inclement weather and only the rods behind me in the flush mounts.  Because my elbows do hit the rods on occasion especially when I'm paddling aggressively and I fear I might knock them out.  Not leashing my rods  ... to me that means one less thing to forget.

Dang it Pole, gimme John's email, I could talk for hours about this.

Keep talking here.  I'll invite him to come check this thread out.

-Allen

BS, you mentioned something about whether an 8' rod would fit down the Rod Pod hole. It will with room to spare. I have dropped my 8'6" rod down the hole no problemo!  It's a two piece, but I put it in as a single stick.