Kayak Fishing Paddles

The 240 Corryvreckan isnt logical. When I was ordering the paddle Werner thought it was odd too.
There is no doubt that the SOTs that are designed as a fishing platform are sluggish barges and a sea kayak, with any true paddler, will leave a SOT in its wake.
Ive even heard the argument that there is no need for a fishing kayak to go fast but I dont think those folks have ever had a big wave stand up in front of them and the near panic that goes along with that "need for speed".

FFTW,
I think the adventure I pedaled had the standard issue fins so I may in fact be in for a beat down.
Ill check with the Adventure owner to make sure unless someone knows what ChuckE uses.
I paddled the Adventure as well and it actually had a very nice glide. When my shoulders and elbows are blown out, from paddling with a Corryvreckan too long, Id imagine ill be in line to pick up a Hobie A.

NANOOK,
Do you think that a longer shaft would help with that airation issue?
I also find that I struggle with my technique when Im switching boats and paddles alot.
I use the Sherpa 194 for riding waves on the WS Kaos and Im pretty lame until my body remembers I dont have that 240 in my hands.
Im 6' 180 and of average strength and athletic ability. I believe its the paddle and my technique that make me go fast. I also believe my arms or more spidery than T-rex like.

while we are on the topic of fast SOTs. I used to paddle the Malibu 4.4 with a Corryvreckan and it was a blast!
unfortunately it was not a great fishing platform. Any additional weight stiffled its performance.
If you ever have the chance to try one out please indulge the paddler in you.

Thanks for the great thread guys. Im really enjoying this site

FWIW, Zee kicked my ass on his adventure with turbo fins and me on a P15 using a Lendal Kinetic paddle (carbon fiber with oversized blades).  I've sprinted to 7 mph before (barely and just for a second, perhaps it was knot, but I'll have to check my GPS settings).  I consider myself a strong (but humble!!!) paddler.

-Allen

I picked up the Werner Shuna 230. I love the decreased weight. The high-angle ,mid-sized blade is a nice compromise between the huge Cory and the feather Camano. I have the carbon shaft and glass balde version.

There was a noticable and immediate difference in effort and efficiency between the Shuna and Cannon Wave I was previously using. The only time I use the Wave paddle now is for sturgeon because I have a tape measure taped to the shaft.

Jay

FWIW, Zee kicked my ass on his adventure with turbo fins and me on a P15 using a Lendal Kinetic paddle (carbon fiber with oversized blades).  I've sprinted to 7 mph before (barely and just for a second, perhaps it was knot, but I'll have to check my GPS settings).  I consider myself a strong (but humble!!!) paddler.

-Allen

that would be 8.055mph 

The 240 Corryvreckan isnt logical. When I was ordering the paddle Werner thought it was odd too.
There is no doubt that the SOTs that are designed as a fishing platform are sluggish barges and a sea kayak, with any true paddler, will leave a SOT in its wake.
Ive even heard the argument that there is no need for a fishing kayak to go fast but I dont think those folks have ever had a big wave stand up in front of them and the near panic that goes along with that "need for speed".

FFTW,
I think the adventure I pedaled had the standard issue fins so I may in fact be in for a beat down.
Ill check with the Adventure owner to make sure unless someone knows what ChuckE uses.
I paddled the Adventure as well and it actually had a very nice glide. When my shoulders and elbows are blown out, from paddling with a Corryvreckan too long, Id imagine ill be in line to pick up a Hobie A.

NANOOK,
Do you think that a longer shaft would help with that airation issue?
I also find that I struggle with my technique when Im switching boats and paddles alot.
I use the Sherpa 194 for riding waves on the WS Kaos and Im pretty lame until my body remembers I dont have that 240 in my hands.
Im 6' 180 and of average strength and athletic ability. I believe its the paddle and my technique that make me go fast. I also believe my arms or more spidery than T-rex like.

while we are on the topic of fast SOTs. I used to paddle the Malibu 4.4 with a Corryvreckan and it was a blast!
unfortunately it was not a great fishing platform. Any additional weight stiffled its performance.
If you ever have the chance to try one out please indulge the paddler in you.

Thanks for the great thread guys. Im really enjoying this site

Not sure if a longer shaft would help that. You're probably right. switching between boats is mostly what it is. a 210 ikelos in my SOT after the sea kayak is quite a shock. I'm used to less resistance from the sea kayak, so my normal power stroke just churns through the water and the boat goes no where. makes me feel like a cartoon who's feet are flying but isn't going anywhere. I have to go super slow with it to keep the water/blade interaction clean.

I eventualy get up to speed, but I don't like to spin the tires with a fast stroke with no return. the shuna instantly solves that problem for me, but your right, with a little more getting used to, any big blade is fine.

Last time I had a SOT in the surf I used a 220cm camano, which I never use. I honestly liked it alot, the only draw back for me was not having that huge pontoon of a blade to lay on for carving turns (which is why I like the ikelos foam core), which I'm sure I would adjust to if I used it enough.

You've got the exact paddle I would use for a kaos in the surf....those boats are a blast!

FWIW, Zee kicked my ass on his adventure with turbo fins and me on a P15 using a Lendal Kinetic paddle (carbon fiber with oversized blades).  I've sprinted to 7 mph before (barely and just for a second, perhaps it was knot, but I'll have to check my GPS settings).  I consider myself a strong (but humble!!!) paddler.

-Allen

that would be 8.055mph 

It's was mph, not knots.  I didn't have to check.  I just needed to remember that I key in on mph when trolling.

-Allen

I just use the T-rex arm thing to emphasize the importance of torso rotation and using larger muscle groups rather than smaller (t-rex arms) muscle groups.

Allen,
I know youve got the paddle skills and youre taller and stronger than me SO I dont think Zee would have handed it to you if you were on a T160 with a overcompensater paddle like mine. (No offense pointed at the OK boats, theyre just not that slippery)

As much as I like to shake the Werner poms poms, the Lendal is my next paddle purchase.
I used one this summer and the more I plan to ride in planes to get to my kayak locations the more I realize that having one of these fantastc 4 piece paddles is a must.
  

Allen,
I know youve got the paddle skills and youre taller and stronger than me SO I dont think Zee would have handed it to you if you were on a T160 with a overcompensater paddle like mine. (No offense pointed at the OK boats, theyre just not that slippery)

As much as I like to shake the Werner poms poms, the Lendal is my next paddle purchase.
I used one this summer and the more I plan to ride in planes to get to my kayak locations the more I realize that having one of these fantastc 4 piece paddles is a must.
  

The Lendal I used is an overcompensator paddle.  I could probably squeeze a little more out of a T160 on a sprint, but it felt to me like Zee was pulling away more than that.  Think about it ... bigger leg muscles.

I may have a Lendal for sale.  I don't need 2 in CA.  I got older Kinetics ... the Kinetic-S and the Kinetic.  The Kinetic-S is similar in size to most normal sized blades and would be the one I would part with.  It has a crank shaft on it, 225 adjustable out to 230.  The Kinetic is the oversized one I was using and I would keep this one.  Let me know if/when you're interested.

-Allen

Allen,
I know youve got the paddle skills and youre taller and stronger than me SO I dont think Zee would have handed it to you if you were on a T160 with a overcompensater paddle like mine. (No offense pointed at the OK boats, theyre just not that slippery)

As much as I like to shake the Werner poms poms, the Lendal is my next paddle purchase.
I used one this summer and the more I plan to ride in planes to get to my kayak locations the more I realize that having one of these fantastc 4 piece paddles is a must.
  

We have Lendals at 40% off MSRP as they are out of business and we are discontinuing.

Allen,
I know youve got the paddle skills and youre taller and stronger than me SO I dont think Zee would have handed it to you if you were on a T160 with a overcompensater paddle like mine. (No offense pointed at the OK boats, theyre just not that slippery)

As much as I like to shake the Werner poms poms, the Lendal is my next paddle purchase.
I used one this summer and the more I plan to ride in planes to get to my kayak locations the more I realize that having one of these fantastc 4 piece paddles is a must.
  

The Lendal I used is an overcompensator paddle.  I could probably squeeze a little more out of a T160 on a sprint, but it felt to me like Zee was pulling away more than that.  Think about it ... bigger leg muscles.

I may have a Lendal for sale.  I don't need 2 in CA.  I got older Kinetics ... the Kinetic-S and the Kinetic.  The Kinetic-S is similar in size to most normal sized blades and would be the one I would part with.  It has a crank shaft on it, 225 adjustable out to 230.  The Kinetic is the oversized one I was using and I would keep this one.  Let me know if/when you're interested.

-Allen

We'll just have to race in reverse.

Allen,
I know youve got the paddle skills and youre taller and stronger than me SO I dont think Zee would have handed it to you if you were on a T160 with a overcompensater paddle like mine. (No offense pointed at the OK boats, theyre just not that slippery)

As much as I like to shake the Werner poms poms, the Lendal is my next paddle purchase.
I used one this summer and the more I plan to ride in planes to get to my kayak locations the more I realize that having one of these fantastc 4 piece paddles is a must.
  

We have Lendals at 40% off MSRP as they are out of business and we are discontinuing.

Ummm .. just in the rumor mill today ... Lendal sold to Nigel ... http://www.paddlinginstructor.com/blog/88888921/1959-confirmed-lendal-paddles-sold-to-sea-kayaking-uk.html

-Allen

Actually with proper paddling you engage your whole body including your legs....when I plant the blade on the left, I push on the peg with my left foot. ends up kind of a pumping action like cycling. when you rotate the torso and pump with the legs, the effort is spread throughout the whole body which is why I think I'd beat a pedaler off the line, in the 100 yd dash, and long distance, but maybe not in a really long sprint like 1/2 mile.

We really just need to test this. We've been debating physics for over a year!

Allen,
I know youve got the paddle skills and youre taller and stronger than me SO I dont think Zee would have handed it to you if you were on a T160 with a overcompensater paddle like mine. (No offense pointed at the OK boats, theyre just not that slippery)

As much as I like to shake the Werner poms poms, the Lendal is my next paddle purchase.
I used one this summer and the more I plan to ride in planes to get to my kayak locations the more I realize that having one of these fantastc 4 piece paddles is a must.
  

We have Lendals at 40% off MSRP as they are out of business and we are discontinuing.

Ummm .. just in the rumor mill today ... Lendal sold to Nigel ... http://www.paddlinginstructor.com/blog/88888921/1959-confirmed-lendal-paddles-sold-to-sea-kayaking-uk.html

-Allen

I had heard that, but it's going to be a while before they're cranking them out, and I'm not 100% confident ND can pull it off.

Actually with proper paddling you engage your whole body including your legs....when I plant the blade on the left, I push on the peg with my left foot. ends up kind of a pumping action like cycling. when you rotate the torso and pump with the legs, the effort is spread throughout the whole body which is why I think I'd beat a pedaler off the line, in the 100 yd dash, and long distance, but maybe not in a really long sprint like 1/2 mile.

We really just need to test this. We've been debating physics for over a year!

I can still squat a whole lot more that I can lift any other way ... because my legs are directly engaged.

-Allen