Seasick

Went out in some snotty conditions, (well, snotty for down here).  5-7 ft, 5 sec period, and the wind was a gusting 15 to 20 with a loooong fetch. The swell rolled over a couple of sand bars and piled up into some substantial breakers in the middle of nowhere and made for a generally confused sea. Bottom line, it was not much fun. The only up side was the water and air was 80+ degrees.

All that got me pretty nauseated and that really rarely happens. In fact, i can count the times on one hand and its generally precipitated by similar conditions.

So what do you do for the irregular whirly hurlys? Don't really want to take meds before hand because it almost never happens.

I went to trader joes and got a bag of dried ginger. Keep some in a waterproof baggie in my PFD pocket. Not sure why it works but it does, if you can get it down. Yuck.


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I love candied ginger, and it does work.  You need to eat a piece before and every 30 minutes or so during. 

Once motion sickness starts it is difficult to stop unless conditions lessen.  Take the ginger at the first hint. 

Try Travelers Roll-On.
It's distributed by Arkopharma.
Roll on canister that fits in a small pocket and has a nice citrus fragrance.
Apply to "forehead, temples, and wrists before and during travel".
My 86 yr old mother suffers from Menieres disease(vertigo) and loves this stuff.
I carry this product with me when in the mountains, ocean, or flying.
I have no connection to this company.
Ginger tabs taken before an outing works well too.
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Once motion sickness starts it is difficult to stop unless conditions lessen. 

The only cure for seasickness, once the symptoms set in is FEAR.
See a really big fin, get harrassed by a stellar sealion or find a jack-in-the-box whale and you'll be fine.   

-Spot-

Went out in some snotty conditions, (well, snotty for down here).  5-7 ft, 5 sec period, and the wind was a gusting 15 to 20 with a loooong fetch. The swell rolled over a couple of sand bars and piled up into some substantial breakers in the middle of nowhere and made for a generally confused sea. Bottom line, it was not much fun. The only up side was the water and air was 80+ degrees.

All that got me pretty nauseated and that really rarely happens. In fact, i can count the times on one hand and its generally precipitated by similar conditions.

So what do you do for the irregular whirly hurlys? Don't really want to take meds before hand because it almost never happens.

Wally, when I was green on the salt I tried all kinds of things even candied Ginger.  Now I can't even eat candied Ginger without gagging and wanting to hurl.  So, I've gone completely to rely on Scopace, but still carry my old standby...MotionEaze.

This is more of an aromatherapy than anything, and works great for those that are casual chummers.  I was out fishing with Steelheadr at PC and he was looking green.  He dabbed a bit of this MotionEaze behind the ear and quickly was back in the game.  He later picked some up for his own arsenal.

http://www.motioneaze.com/

the real trick is to not go out when the swell and period are squared 

honestly in my years of running a charter boat out of neah bay the only things that really worked were the scopalamine patch and dramamine or bonine (take the night before and then in the morning).  also, beware of anyone bragging about how they never get seasick no matter what... because they soon will be.

chris

My sure fire remedy is 75mg of benadryl.......it takes about 15 minutes to act and it does not make me sleepy.......this is a side effect for many people.

So eat ginger candy till I puke, roll on smelly deodorant and get Mark and his boyz to sneak up from behind and smack the water next to me with their paddles, then drink a bottle of benadryll. That about cover it?

Thanks guys!

I guess I've got a few additions to make for my First Aid kit.

the real trick is to not go out when the swell and period are squared 

honestly in my years of running a charter boat out of neah bay the only things that really worked were the scopalamine patch and dramamine or bonine (take the night before and then in the morning).  also, beware of anyone bragging about how they never get seasick no matter what... because they soon will be.

chris

While the Scop patch was used, seemingly to good effect, at the ORC, I've been on a couple boat rides where I still ralphed big time even with the patch on (and yes, I put it on more than 4 hours before getting on the boat).  One was a tuna charter, the other was a private sport boat out of Westport.  On that private boat I was, however, able to recover after puking.  That was a first.

I've used Bonine to reasonable effect, but also has that fail me.

Knock on wood, I haven't puked yet on the yak.  Started to get a little green at ORC, but held it together.

The Scop patches are way too expensive to rely on.  Something like $15 each and my insurance doesn't cover it.  At all.  Plus there's the co-pay to go see your doc to get the scrip for it. 

I need to order some of that Motion-Eze and try it out.

3 bucks at target. Fits in a PFD or pocket well. I'm sure it would work for what you need it for. Any plans for an OR visit? Or do I need to dispatch my pet raccoon over to your place again 

I need to order some of that Motion-Eze and try it out.

Like insayn said, this works well for casual pukers. If you have a history of the affliction it's not gonna work for you. If the ocean is unusually tame it works for me, ORC game day I'd have come back in if not for 1/2 a scop patch. I've found 1/2 works like a champ without completely drying me out and dilating my eyes like what a whole patch does.

I need to order some of that Motion-Eze and try it out.

Like insayn said, this works well for casual pukers. If you have a history of the affliction it's not gonna work for you. If the ocean is unusually tame it works for me, ORC game day I'd have come back in if not for 1/2 a scop patch. I've found 1/2 works like a champ without completely drying me out and dilating my eyes like what a whole patch does.

Never had problems with eye dilation, or dry-mouth with the Scop patch. 

I've had some ginger gum that seems to help.  I'd like to see if I can get away without the pharmaceuticals.  Not that I have any philosophical objections to them.  I just don't like spending $15 per patch (a $15-20 copay for 10+ patches would be a different story).  Especially if other, far cheaper, alternatives exist that are effective (enough).

Ah seasickness, how I hate thee.

Thursday we drove down to Astoria, met up with Linglady's uncle and cousin.  Had some drinks, and got to sleep around 11.  That's mistake number 1 and 2.  Friday we got up at 4, ate, and headed to the boat.  Took dramamine about 20 minutes before launch.  Those are mistakes 3 and 4. 

So far we have:  drinking, lack of sleep, eating before taking dramamine, and not taking dramamine early enough.

So, we head out, and I'm doing ok.  Pretty good in fact.  We check crab pots, reset them, and head out to troll.  About an hour in I feel a little woozy.  Then I feel fine.  We hook up to a silver and I get it to the boat and it's in the net, but it has to go back.  Seems it's one of them fish with an extra fin.  This whole time I've been concentrating on looking up and not down, but about 3 hours in, I decide I wanted to sit down, so I look in the cabin, lean over to grab a folding stool, and feel a little off.  5 seconds later I'm hurling.

Then... I'm 100% fine again.  Another hour passes, and I start feeling bad again, but this time there is no quarter given by my body.  I hurl non-stop for 20 minutes, and at points I find it hard to breath.  Ugh. 

Being stupid with issues 1-4 was my own fault.  It only compounded the issues I would have had from the dual incomming swell + autogyro trolling crap that stears the boat.

If I have to pick though, I'd take a kayak any day of the week.  I typically only have to deal with up and down.  On Friday on that boat, there was roll and pitch from 2 different swells, and the auto-pilot was creating yaw for us too.  Loads of fun.

3 hours later and a plate of chicken chow mein, I was good to go again.   

TLDR version:  Get plenty of sleep and don't drink the night before.

   Awww c'mon Lee,
  That doesn't sound like any fun at all.
   Is there a # 5 that you didn't metion ?


  #5 Eat a greasy tuna sandwich followed by a warm beer and get back to fishin.
    At least that way---you'll have some ammunition.......