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I am having a really hard time figuring out the differences here.

So my friend takes me out to an island and drops me off with a borrowed kayak and a mixture of my gear and some borrowed gear that is too bulky to fly with. I am alone on this island and fish for a few days. Those fish are legal, right?
But if two days later other people show up on that same island who paid to be there those same fish are now illegal, right?

And the reasoning behind this is it would be too easy for me to catch fish while alone on an island if I knew other people were coming soon?

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I am having a really hard time figuring out the differences here.

So my friend takes me out to an island and drops me off with a borrowed kayak and a mixture of my gear and some borrowed gear that is too bulky to fly with. I am alone on this island and fish for a few days. Those fish are legal, right?
But if two days later other people show up on that same island who paid to be there those same fish are now illegal, right?

And the reasoning behind this is it would be too easy for me to catch fish while alone on an island if I knew other people were coming soon?

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Bill, first off, the "reasoning behind this" is NOT that "it would be too easy for me to catch fish while alone on an island if I knew other people were coming soon".  Really.  That's just ridiculous.

Allow me to turn this back on you.  Ask yourself the question, "Am I fishing in conjunction with a guided fishing trip".  If your answer is yes, then don't enter the fish.  If your answer is no, then by all means enter the fish.

-Allen

So when not with clients that would be not 'in conjunction with guiding clients' 

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So when not with clients that would be not 'in conjunction with guiding clients' 

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If it is on the same trip with clients, that is "in conjunction".  If you go early to set up, that is "in conjunction".  If you stay later to clean up, that is "in conjunction".  Why?  Because those are all technically part of the guided trip.

-Allen

What if I am testing my gear to use with clients? Is in conjunction with the trip too?

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What if I am testing my gear to use with clients? Is in conjunction with the trip too?

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I don't understand the question.

-Allen

If I am out on the water to test gear for clients is that also in conjunction with a guided trip since the guided trip is the reason for being on the water?

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If I am out on the water to test gear for clients is that also in conjunction with a guided trip since the guided trip is the reason for being on the water?

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Still don't completely understand the question.  Or maybe I don't understand your lack of understanding of the rule.  Or maybe you're just being sarcastic.  I dunno.  But this is getting old.

If you're serious about this question, let's take it to PM.  Or call me.

-Allen

I'm just glad us folks in AK might have a chance to get to the 10 fish mark with the new additions.   It's gonna be one helluva ride catching a red in the Kenai.

If you want my 2 cents..
Sockeye 26-30" is a big one
Pinks 22-24"
Grayling 20"
Dolly/char 20-22"
Catfish 24"

Look forward to the competition in 2013.

Clarification please?

If I carry an inflatable raft/kayak on my back, hike to a lake, and fish...does that count?

Does a plane fall under the taxi provision? 

Clarification please?

If I carry an inflatable raft/kayak on my back, hike to a lake, and fish...does that count?

Does a plane fall under the taxi provision? 

Allen might disagree, but both of those seem within the rules to me. 

I would think both would be fine... except it NEEDS to be a kayak according to the rules... not a raft.

1. All fish entered must be caught by hook and line (i.e. hooked, fought, and landed) from a human power kayak (i.e. no sail or motors), without aid from anyone else and using methods deemed legal according to the body of water from which they are caught. No mothershipping allowed, the kayak must be under human powered control from launch until landing.

An inflatable kayak is a kayak.  If it's not a kayak, it won't pass.

I would think both would be fine... except it NEEDS to be a kayak according to the rules... not a raft.

1. All fish entered must be caught by hook and line (i.e. hooked, fought, and landed) from a human power kayak (i.e. no sail or motors), without aid from anyone else and using methods deemed legal according to the body of water from which they are caught. No mothershipping allowed, the kayak must be under human powered control from launch until landing.

There are some models of kayak that are inflatable. Like this Hobie i9 inflatable:




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Cool thanks for the Update,got my 2013 license today, and lee I'm not a guide but will tell you all I know about bass, grew up catching them,But look at my bass this year,sometimes the fish just outwit us all.guide service is when you pay for the service,so no kayak in the pics too, or location other then state,as some areas are off an on diffrent lake streams and rivers as I just found out umpqua river trout are C&R only yet open on the smith and most lake's open on 10mile lake but C&R on 10mile creek, confusing as a large trout is also a steelhead, so saying you got a trout in Oregon , you need to be a bit more specific,and we non guilded person's would like to know where fish are biting too,not that I can kayak to alaska.But I did get an invite to come up by a guide too work as a helper.